Predictika · Electric chain hoists: capacity, lift, duty class, voltage, environment, trolleys, controls and discount authority

An AI sales agent's chain hoist quote, checked before it goes out

An AI sales agent builds an electric chain hoist quote from the conversation and says it is ready to send. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika's validator, which checks load, lift, duty class, voltage, environment, trolley, controls, quantity, discount and the total the agent states, and reports every problem it finds in one pass.

Scope: Electric chain hoist quotes in the style of Columbus McKinnon: five hoists from 500 to 10000 kg, four trolley options and four control options, priced in US dollars. Modeled on general public knowledge; prices and limits are illustrative estimates, and the company is not affiliated with or endorsing this demonstration. See everything this validator covers

This validator handles any quote made of these hoists, trolleys and controls, not just the scenarios shown below.

  • Load, lift and duty — the load within the hoist capacity, the lift within the chain the hoist carries and the duty class within the hoist rating; above 90 percent of capacity, or at the duty limit of class 3 or 4, applications engineering must confirm.
  • Voltage and environment — the hoist must be offered at the 230, 460 or 575 volt supply chosen, and rated for an outdoor or hazardous environment when the site is one.
  • Trolley and controls — variable speed controls need a hoist with a variable speed drive, trolley travel buttons need a motorized trolley, the load must be within the trolley rating and the beam flange within its range.
  • Quantity, discount and size — one to 20 hoists per quote, a volume discount from 5 hoists, an approval band above 5 percent total discount and a limit at 15 percent, and a deal desk review above USD 120,000.
  • The stated net total — a check that the net total the agent states matches the net total the validator computes.

Any hoist quote that touches these rules is in scope, not only the scenarios pictured here. Not covered: other product lines such as manual hoists, lifting slings or crane systems, load calculations for the supporting structure, or real list prices.

The AI sales agentBuilds the hoist quote from the conversation and says it is ready.
Predictika validatorChecks every rule at once and returns the verdict, each finding, and the computed figures.

6 scenarios in 3 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch

What the agent proposes

The AI sales agent says

Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.

Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)

Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run

Predictika validator


      
Waiting for the call.

Where a rules-based CPQ gets this wrong

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Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ or Conga) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.

What the validator caughtA rules-based CPQPredictika
Capacity, lift and duty limitsOnly with workarounds
A validation rule per hoist model; each new model multiplies the rules.
Each limit is a catalog attribute compared with the quote on every call.
Voltage and environment ratingsOnly with care
Option filters per hoist that must agree with each other.
Supply voltage and environment are checked against the hoist in one pass.
Controls that need a drive or a motorized trolleyOnly with care
Dependencies between control, hoist and trolley that are easy to miss.
Each dependency is a separate finding returned with the others.
Trolley rating and beam flangeOnly with workarounds
Rules per trolley that must be kept in step with the hoist rules.
The trolley rating and the flange range are catalog attributes compared on every call.
The net total the agent statesOnly with workarounds
Comparing a stated value with a computed one means a separate rule per quote layout, and price rules rarely run on stated figures.
The stated net total is a field in the request and is checked against the computed value.
Every problem returned in one answerOnly with workarounds
Rules tend to fire as the quote is saved, so a rep often fixes one error and meets the next.
All findings come back together, whatever order the choices arrived in.

What this validator catches: findings from its test cases

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Every rule is checked on every call, in any order the choices arrive; one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.

1A load of 2500 kg is outside the 1 to 2000 kg the Electric chain hoist 2000 kg can lift.
2Duty class 4 is outside the duty class 1 to 3 the Electric chain hoist 2000 kg is rated for.
3A lift of 30 m is outside the 1 to 20 m the Electric chain hoist 1000 kg can reach.
4The Electric chain hoist 2000 kg is not offered for the supply voltage chosen.
5The Electric chain hoist 500 kg is not rated for the environment chosen.
6The Pendant variable speed needs a hoist with variable speed drive and the Electric chain hoist 500 kg has none.
7The Radio remote variable speed with trolley travel needs a motorized trolley and the Geared trolley is not one.
8The Push trolley is rated for 2000 kg and the load is 4000 kg.
9A beam flange of 400 mm does not fit the Motorized trolley range of 66 to 310 mm.
1025 hoists are outside the 1 to 20 hoists of one quote.
11Total discount of 18 percent exceeds the 15 percent limit.
12The quoted net total of USD 7838.04 does not match the USD 8428.0 the validator computed.
13The load is above 90 percent of the hoist capacity; applications engineering must confirm.
14The duty class is at the limit of the hoist; applications engineering must confirm the service life.
15Total discount of 6 percent is above the 5 percent a rep can give; sales director must approve.
16Order value is above USD 120000 and needs a deal desk review.

Scenarios and results

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The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.

1. Load capacity: Load above the hoist capacity

The agent's request. One 2000 kg electric chain hoist with a geared trolley and a variable speed pendant, lifting 2500 kg, for an indoor bay. Net total USD 8,428. Ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Load over the capacity. A load of 2500 kg is outside the 1 to 2000 kg the Electric chain hoist 2000 kg can lift.
  • Load near the capacity. The load is above 90 percent of the hoist capacity; applications engineering must confirm.

2. Load capacity: With the 5000 kg hoist

The agent's request. One 5000 kg electric chain hoist with a geared trolley and a variable speed pendant, lifting 2500 kg, for an indoor bay. Net total USD 14,760. Ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Order price. USD 14,760 total for 1 hoist, before discount USD 14,760, total discount 0 percent (estimated list prices).

3. Outdoor use: 500 kg hoist used outdoors

The agent's request. One 500 kg electric chain hoist with a push trolley and a two speed pendant, lifting 400 kg, for an outdoor yard. Net total USD 4,000. Ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Environment not rated. The Electric chain hoist 500 kg is not rated for the environment chosen.

4. Outdoor use: With the 1000 kg hoist

The agent's request. One 1000 kg electric chain hoist with a push trolley and a two speed pendant, lifting 400 kg, for an outdoor yard. Net total USD 5,130. Ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Order price. USD 5,130 total for 1 hoist, before discount USD 5,130, total discount 0 percent (estimated list prices).

5. The total the agent states: Stated total below the computed total

The agent's request. One 2000 kg electric chain hoist with a geared trolley and a variable speed pendant, lifting 1500 kg, for an indoor bay. Net total USD 7,838.04. Ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Stated net total differs. The quoted net total of USD 7838.04 does not match the USD 8428 the validator computed.

6. The total the agent states: Stated total corrected

The agent's request. One 2000 kg electric chain hoist with a geared trolley and a variable speed pendant, lifting 1500 kg, for an indoor bay. Net total USD 8,428. Ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Order price. USD 8,428 total for 1 hoist, before discount USD 8,428, total discount 0 percent (estimated list prices).

Narration transcript

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The text of the narrated walkthrough, step by step.

  1. Welcome to a demo of Predictika's Validator. An AI sales agent builds an electric chain hoist quote from the conversation and says it is ready to send. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika's validator, which checks load, lift, duty class, voltage, environment, trolley, controls, quantity, discount and the total the agent states, and reports every problem it finds in one pass.
  2. I will start with the first request by the agent.
  3. The agent says. One 2000 kg electric chain hoist with a geared trolley and a variable speed pendant, lifting 2500 kg, for an indoor bay. Net total USD 8,428. The rest of the request is on screen.
  4. Before it goes out, the agent calls the validator.
  5. Blocked, with one finding and one approval, all in one answer. A load of 2500 kg is outside the 1 to 2000 kg the Electric chain hoist 2000 kg can lift.
  6. The validator returned one blocking finding and one approval in one answer. A check that reads one field at a time would pass most of this; it shows only when the choices in the quote are checked against each other.
  7. What this shows: for capacity, lift and duty limits, a rules-based CPQ can do this only with workarounds.
  8. Now the agent resubmits.
  9. The corrected request. It changes the hoist to Electric chain hoist 5000 kg.
  10. It calls the validator again.
  11. This time the validator clears it.
  12. Both earlier findings are cleared, and the validator's total, USD 14,760, matches the quote.
  13. Two problems caught in one call, fixed in one pass, and a clean quote. That is the value of Predictika's validator: catching mistakes before they reach the customer. Now you can try the other scenarios yourself.