Predictika · Recyclable film order quotes

An AI sales agent's Ecolutions film order quote, checked before it goes out

An AI sales agent prepares a quote for a packaging film order: the Ecolutions family (EcoLam, EcoVer or EcoPaper) and its barrier grade, the product to be packed, the pouch or bag format, the print process and colors, the lamination, the seal, the filling method, the web width, the order size, the discount, and the total the quote states. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of how these choices fit together, and returns a verdict, every reason and the total it computed.

Scope: One Ecolutions film order quote: family and grade, product, format, print, lamination, seal, fill, size, discount and the stated total. See everything this validator covers

This validator models quotes for the nine Ecolutions structures (EcoLam, EcoVer and EcoPaper, each in a base, Plus and HighPlus grade), not just the scenarios shown below.

  • Family and barrier grade — which family suits hot fill or retort, which grades protect oxygen-sensitive products such as coffee and pet food, and which paper structures are not offered clear.
  • Format, seal and lamination — the formats each seal suits, the lidding that needs a peel seal, the adhesive lamination the HighPlus grades need, and the lamination a recyclability claim on paper allows.
  • Print and size — the number of colors, the web width and thickness, and the minimum order for each print process.
  • Discount, volume, rush and the stated total — the approvals for a larger discount, a very large order or a rush lead time, and the total stated on the quote, which is compared with the computed one.

Any Ecolutions film order quote that touches these rules is in scope — not only the scenarios pictured here. Not covered: other Constantia Flexibles products and services. The family and grade names come from public Constantia Flexibles pages; the compatibility rules, size limits, minimum orders, approval thresholds and all prices are modeled from comparable products and are not published by Constantia Flexibles.

The AI sales agentBuilds the quote from the conversation with the packaging buyer and says it is ready to send.
Predictika validatorChecks every rule at once and returns the verdict, each finding, and the computed figures.

7 scenarios in 3 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch

What the agent proposes

The AI sales agent says

Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.

Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)

Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run

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Where rules-based CPQ gets it wrong
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Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.

    
What the validator caughtTypical rules-based CPQPredictika
Barrier grade that depends on the productOnly with workarounds
Coffee and pet food need a Plus or HighPlus grade, paper cannot be offered clear, and a base paper grade does not suit moist products, so the grade, family, color and product all have to be read together.		Family, grade, color and product are fields of one quote, and the dependencies are checked together on every call.
Seal, lamination and fill that depend on the formatOnly with care
A peel seal suits only lidding and 4-side sachets, hot fill and retort need EcoVer, and the HighPlus grades need adhesive lamination, so each choice needs a rule that looks at the others.		Format, seal, lamination and fill are fields of one quote and are checked together on every call.
Size limits and minimum orders by print processOnly with care
The web width, the number of print colors and the minimum order all differ by process, so a rotogravure run that is too small and too narrow fails on two rules at once.		Every size and print rule is evaluated on every call, so each reason is reported together.
A stated total that must match the computed oneOnly with workarounds
The total adds the material per kilogram and the print setup per color, less the discount, so a separate rule must recompute it and compare it with the stated figure.		The stated total is a field of the quote and is compared with the computed total on every call.
Every problem returned in one answerOnly with workarounds
Rules tend to fire as a step is completed, so a rep often fixes one error and meets the next.		All findings, blocks and approvals alike, come back together, so the agent can fix them in a single pass.

  

  

    
What this validator catches: findings from its test cases
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Every rule is checked on every call, in any order the choices arrive; one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.

    
1Coffee and pet food are oxygen sensitive; the base grade has only a water vapor barrier, so a Plus or HighPlus grade is needed.
2The Tube format is modeled only for the EcoLam family.
3EcoPaper is a paper-based structure and cannot be transparent.
4The base EcoPaper grade is not modeled for dairy, processed food or retort; use EcoPaperPlus or EcoPaperHighPlus.
5Hot fill is modeled only for the EcoVer polypropylene family; EcoLam and EcoPaper are for cold and ambient fill.
6Retort use is modeled only for EcoVerHighPlus with hot fill.
7The Lidding format needs a peel seal.
8A peel seal is modeled only for Lidding and 4-side-seal sachets.
9The HighPlus grades are modeled with solvent-based or solvent-free adhesive lamination, not extrusion lamination.
10A recyclability claim for EcoPaper is modeled only with extrusion or solvent-free lamination.
11A web width of 299 mm is outside the modeled 300 to 1,300 mm range.
12A thickness of 19 micrometres is outside the modeled 20 to 120 micrometre range.
139 print colors is outside the modeled 0 to 8 range.
14A rotogravure order of 1,999 kg is below the modeled 2,000 kg minimum.
15A flexo order of 999 kg is below the modeled 1,000 kg minimum.
16The quote states a total of 1,799,999 euro cents; the modeled prices give 1,800,000 euro cents.
17An order of 50,001 kg is above 50,000 kg; volume pricing is set by the sales manager.
18The discount of 63,001 euro cents is more than 5 percent of the material cost; a sales manager should approve.
19A rush lead time needs a production planner to confirm capacity.

  

  

    
Scenarios and results
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The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.

    
1. Coffee bag quote: Coffee pillow bag in transparent EcoPaper with a base grade, a peel seal, a solvent-based lamination and a recyclability claim

    
The agent's request. Please quote 4,000 kg of EcoPaper, transparent, for coffee, as a pillow bag with a peel seal, solvent-based lamination, rotogravure print in 6 colors, a 700 mm web and ambient filling, with a recyclability claim, and a discount of 148,400 euro cents (7 percent). The quote states a total of 2,511,600 euro cents. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • EcoPaper cannot be transparent. EcoPaper is a paper-based structure and cannot be transparent.
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  • Oxygen-sensitive product needs a barrier grade. Coffee and pet food are oxygen sensitive; the base grade has only a water vapor barrier, so a Plus or HighPlus grade is needed.
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  • Peel seal only on lidding or sachet. A peel seal is modeled only for Lidding and 4-side-seal sachets.
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  • Recyclable paper needs solvent-free lamination. A recyclability claim for EcoPaper is modeled only with extrusion or solvent-free lamination.
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  • Discount above 5 percent. The discount of 148,400 euro cents is more than 5 percent of the material cost; a sales manager should approve.
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2. Coffee bag quote: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please quote 4,000 kg of EcoPaperPlus, white, for coffee, as a pillow bag with a peel seal, solvent-based lamination, rotogravure print in 6 colors, a 700 mm web and ambient filling, with a recyclability claim, and a discount of 168,560 euro cents (7 percent). The quote states a total of 2,779,440 euro cents. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Peel seal only on lidding or sachet. A peel seal is modeled only for Lidding and 4-side-seal sachets.
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  • Recyclable paper needs solvent-free lamination. A recyclability claim for EcoPaper is modeled only with extrusion or solvent-free lamination.
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  • Discount above 5 percent. The discount of 168,560 euro cents is more than 5 percent of the material cost; a sales manager should approve.
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3. Coffee bag quote: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please quote 4,000 kg of EcoPaperPlus, white, for coffee, as a pillow bag with a heat seal, solvent-free lamination, rotogravure print in 6 colors, a 700 mm web and ambient filling, with a recyclability claim, and a discount of 97,120 euro cents (4 percent). The quote states a total of 2,870,880 euro cents. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Price summary. 4,000 kg at 607 euro cents a kg, print setup 540,000 cents, estimated total of 2,870,880 euro cents.
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4. Retort pouch quote: A retort pouch in EcoLamHighPlus with extrusion lamination and a total left over from an earlier draft

    
The agent's request. Please quote 6,000 kg of EcoLamHighPlus, transparent, for retort meals, as a stand-up pouch with a heat seal, extrusion lamination, rotogravure print in 6 colors, a 800 mm web and ambient filling. The quote states a total of 3,060,000 euro cents. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Retort needs EcoVerHighPlus. Retort use is modeled only for EcoVerHighPlus with hot fill.
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  • HighPlus needs adhesive lamination. The HighPlus grades are modeled with solvent-based or solvent-free adhesive lamination, not extrusion lamination.
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  • Stated total does not match. The quote states a total of 3,060,000 euro cents; the modeled prices give 3,840,000 euro cents.
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5. Retort pouch quote: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please quote 6,000 kg of EcoVerHighPlus, transparent, for retort meals, as a stand-up pouch with a heat seal, solvent-free lamination, rotogravure print in 6 colors, a 800 mm web and hot filling. The quote states a total of 4,170,000 euro cents. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Price summary. 6,000 kg at 605 euro cents a kg, print setup 540,000 cents, estimated total of 4,170,000 euro cents.
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6. Small run quote: A small rotogravure run on a narrow web with a rush lead time

    
The agent's request. Please quote 1,500 kg of EcoLam, transparent, for dairy products, as a stand-up pouch with a heat seal, extrusion lamination, rotogravure print in 8 colors, a 250 mm web and ambient filling, with a rush lead time. The quote states a total of 1,350,000 euro cents. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Web width out of range. A web width of 250 mm is outside the modeled 300 to 1,300 mm range.
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  • Rotogravure minimum order. A rotogravure order of 1,500 kg is below the modeled 2,000 kg minimum.
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  • Rush lead time. A rush lead time needs a production planner to confirm capacity.
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7. Small run quote: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please quote 1,500 kg of EcoLam, transparent, for dairy products, as a stand-up pouch with a heat seal, extrusion lamination, flexo print in 8 colors, a 320 mm web and ambient filling. The quote states a total of 830,000 euro cents. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Price summary. 1,500 kg at 420 euro cents a kg, print setup 200,000 cents, estimated total of 830,000 euro cents.
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Narration transcript
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The text of the narrated walkthrough, step by step.

    
    
      
  1. Welcome to a demo of Predictika's Validator. An AI sales agent prepares a quote for a packaging film order: the Ecolutions family (EcoLam, EcoVer or EcoPaper) and its barrier grade, the product to be packed, the pouch or bag format, and more. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of how these choices fit together, and returns a verdict, every reason and the total it computed.
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  2. I will start with the first request by the agent.
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  3. The agent says. Please quote 4,000 kg of EcoPaper, transparent, for coffee, as a pillow bag with a peel seal, solvent-based lamination, rotogravure print in 6 colors. The quote states a total of 2,511,600 euro cents. The rest of the request is on screen.
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  4. Before it goes out, the agent calls the validator.
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  5. Blocked, with four findings and one approval, all in one answer. EcoPaper is a paper-based structure and cannot be transparent. Coffee and pet food are oxygen sensitive; the base grade has only a water vapor barrier, so a Plus or HighPlus grade is needed. A peel seal is modeled only for Lidding and 4-side-seal sachets. The other one is on screen.
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  6. The validator returned four blocking findings and one approval in one answer. A check that reads one field at a time would pass most of this; it shows only when the choices in the quote are checked against each other.
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  7. What this shows: for barrier grade that depends on the product, a rules-based CPQ can do this only with workarounds.
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  8. Now the agent resubmits.
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  9. The corrected request. It changes the family and grade to EcoPaperPlus, the color to white, the discount to 168,560 euro cents and the total stated on the quote to 2,779,440 euro cents.
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  10. It calls the validator again.
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  11. Still blocked, with two findings and one approval, all in one answer. A peel seal is modeled only for Lidding and 4-side-seal sachets. A recyclability claim for EcoPaper is modeled only with extrusion or solvent-free lamination.
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  12. Two findings cleared. Still blocking: peel seal only on lidding or sachet and recyclable paper needs solvent-free lamination. One approval also remains for a person: discount above 5 percent.
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  13. The agent resubmits once more.
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  14. The revised request. It changes the seal to heat, the lamination to solvent-free lamination, the discount to 97,120 euro cents and the total stated on the quote to 2,870,880 euro cents.
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  15. It calls the validator once more.
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  16. This time the validator clears it.
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  17. All three earlier findings are cleared.
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  18. Five problems caught in one call, fixed in two passes, and a clean quote. That is the value of Predictika's validator: catching mistakes before they reach the customer. Now you can try the other scenarios yourself.
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