Predictika · Emerson · Emerson Fisher control valve quotes
An AI sales agent prepares a control valve assembly quote for a fictional customer, with the total price it expects. Before the quote goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika’s validator, which checks it against valve sizing, pressure class, material, actuator, positioner and discount rules, compares the total the agent states with the one it computes, and returns a verdict with every reason. All prices are illustrative estimates in US dollars.
This validator checks and prices quotes for Fisher control valve assemblies: easy-e (EZ) and ET globe valves and Vee-Ball (V150) rotary valves with 667, 585C and 2052 actuators and DVC6200 positioners. It handles any quote built from those parts, not just the scenarios shown below.
It does not cover other Emerson automation, measurement or software products, real prices, specifications or contracts, or any real customer.
8 scenarios in 4 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch
Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.
Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)
Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run
What this means
Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ or Revenue Cloud) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.
| What the validator catches | Typical rules-based CPQ | Predictika |
|---|---|---|
| Valve sizing against the flow | Only with workarounds Sizing is a calculation (flow squared times specific gravity, divided by pressure drop) compared with a limit per valve; price rules and product rules are not built for that, so it usually lives in a separate sizing tool. | The sizing check runs on every call from the same choices as the price. |
| Pressure class, material and temperature together | Only with care Class ratings, body limits and material temperature ranges are individually simple but interact on every quote. | All limits are evaluated together and each failure is returned with its reason. |
| Sour and seawater service | Only with care Each service needs particular construction (NACE, duplex), which is one more product rule per service. | The service selects its required construction and a mismatch is a finding. |
| Actuator, fail action and positioner | Only with workarounds Matching actuator style, shutoff capability, fail action, SIS and plant protocol across several fields is a web of cross-field rules. | The combinations are checked in one pass and each mismatch is named. |
| Approval steps | Only with care Discounts above rep authority, and oversized valves, need a person to sign off, and the release must stay blocked until they do. | Approval items are returned with the verdict and the release step is refused until the approval is recorded. |
| Quantity-tiered discount and a total that reconciles | Only with care Discount limits by quantity and a requested discount are easy to get out of step with the quote total. | The same computed figures feed the line items and the total. |
| The total the agent states | Only with workarounds Comparing a stated figure with a computed one means a separate rule per quote layout, and price rules rarely run on stated figures. | The stated total is a field in the request and is checked against the computed total. |
| Every problem returned in one answer | Only with workarounds Rules tend to fire as the quote is saved, so a rep often fixes one error and meets the next. | All findings come back together, whatever order the choices arrived in. |
Every rule is checked on every call, in whatever order the choices arrive, and one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.
| Rule | Effect | What it checks |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | block | Liquid sizing: required Cv squared (flow squared times specific gravity, divided by pressure drop) must not exceed the square of 80 percent of the valve rated Cv |
| 2 | approval | A valve whose required Cv squared is under 20 percent of the squared rated Cv is oversized and needs an application engineer to confirm controllability |
| 3 | block | Inlet pressure must be within the ASME class rating, and the class cannot exceed the highest class the valve body is offered in |
| 4 | block | Sour service requires NACE MR0175 construction; seawater service requires a duplex body |
| 5 | block | The body material must be rated for the minimum and maximum temperature (WCC, LCC, CF8M and duplex have different limits) |
| 6 | block | A pressure drop over 60 percent of the inlet pressure requires anti-cavitation trim, and Cavitrol trim is offered only in globe valves |
| 7 | block | The actuator must fit the valve style (667 and 585C on globe valves, 2052 on rotary valves) and be able to close against the shutoff pressure |
| 8 | block | Fail-in-last-position requires the double-acting 585C piston actuator |
| 9 | block | A safety instrumented valve requires the DVC6200 SIS positioner, and the positioner protocol (HART or FOUNDATION fieldbus) must match the plant |
| 10 | block | Lead time, including alloy and anti-cavitation trim, cannot be longer than the customer can wait |
| 11 | block, approval | Discount authority: 5 percent for a rep, up to 15 percent for orders under 10 units and 20 percent for 10 or more; above 5 percent needs approval, above the limit is blocked |
| 12 | computed | Price is the valve body times a material multiplier, plus the pressure class adder, NACE construction, anti-cavitation trim, the actuator and the positioner, less the requested discount, times the quantity |
| 13 | block | The total price the agent states must match the validator figure within USD 1 |
The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.
The agent's request. A Fisher easy-e EZ 2 in globe valve in WCC at class 300 with a 667 actuator and a DVC6200 HART positioner, for 500 gpm of water at a 20 psi drop and 200 psi inlet pressure, fail-close, needed in 14 weeks, quantity 1. Total price USD 16,400.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Blocked.
The agent's request. A Fisher ET 4 in globe valve in WCC at class 300 with a 667 actuator and a DVC6200 HART positioner, for 500 gpm of water at a 20 psi drop and 200 psi inlet pressure, fail-close, needed in 14 weeks, quantity 1. Total price USD 37,600.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Allowed.
The agent's request. A Fisher Vee-Ball V150 4 in rotary valve in WCC at class 150 with Cavitrol anti-cavitation trim, a 667 actuator and a DVC6200 HART positioner, for 1,500 gpm of water at a 30 psi drop and 200 psi inlet pressure, fail-close, needed in 20 weeks, quantity 1. Total price USD 26,800.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Blocked.
The agent's request. A Fisher Vee-Ball V150 4 in rotary valve in WCC at class 150 with a 2052 rotary actuator and a DVC6200 HART positioner, for 1,500 gpm of water at a 30 psi drop and 200 psi inlet pressure, fail-close, needed in 20 weeks, quantity 1. Total price USD 19,700.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Allowed.
The agent's request. Two Fisher easy-e EZ 3 in globe valves in WCC at class 300 with 667 actuators and DVC6200 HART positioners, for 400 gpm of water at a 25 psi drop and 250 psi inlet pressure, fail-close, needed in 12 weeks. Total price USD 34,170.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Blocked.
The agent's request. Two Fisher easy-e EZ 3 in globe valves in WCC at class 300 with 667 actuators and DVC6200 HART positioners, for 400 gpm of water at a 25 psi drop and 250 psi inlet pressure, fail-close, needed in 12 weeks. Total price USD 40,200.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Allowed.
The agent's request. Twelve Fisher easy-e EZ 2 in globe valves in WCC at class 300 with 667 actuators and DVC6200 HART positioners, for 150 gpm of water at a 20 psi drop and 200 psi inlet pressure, fail-close, needed in 12 weeks, with a 12 percent project discount. Total price USD 173,184.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Needs approval.
The agent's request. Twelve Fisher easy-e EZ 2 in globe valves in WCC at class 300 with 667 actuators and DVC6200 HART positioners, for 150 gpm of water at a 20 psi drop and 200 psi inlet pressure, fail-close, needed in 12 weeks, with a 5 percent project discount. Total price USD 186,960.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Allowed.
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