Predictika · Submersible well pump motors

An AI sales agent's submersible motor and cable quote, checked before it goes out

An AI sales agent prepares a quote for a 4-inch Franklin Electric submersible motor with its drop cable, the fuse or breaker that protects it, any transformers feeding it, the starts per day, the cooling flow past the motor, and the cable length it says the table allows. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the manual's tables and returns a verdict, every reason and the figures it computed.

Scope: Franklin Electric 4-inch submersible motors (60 Hz): cable length by size, protection ratings, transformers, starts, cooling flow and water temperature. See everything this validator covers

This validator models a quote for one 4-inch, 60 Hz Franklin Electric submersible motor with its cable, based on the tables in the public Franklin Electric AIM Manual (2026 edition), not just the scenarios shown below.

  • Motors — the 4-inch motors in the manual's tables: single-phase 115 V at 1/2 hp and 230 V from 1/2 to 5 hp, and three-phase 230 V from 1/2 to 7.5 hp and 460 V from 1/2 to 15 hp. Any other motor goes to a person.
  • Cable — the maximum length of each copper cable size, #14 through 4/0, for each motor at 5 or 3 percent voltage drop; a cable size the table does not list for a motor, or aluminum wire, goes to a person. The length the quote says the table allows must match the table. Two cable sizes in one run are checked together, and a control box with a line contactor is limited to 25 percent of the allowable length. Sizes the table shades must be individual conductors, not jacketed cable.
  • Protection and transformers — the maximum standard fuse, dual-element fuse or circuit breaker rating for each motor, and the manual's transformer kVA for closed and open connections.
  • Starts and cooling — the starts per 24 hours the manual recommends, the cooling flow past the motor for each well or sleeve size, and the water temperature: above 86 °F the quote needs a person to confirm, and above 140 °F it is outside the standard motor.

Any 4-inch Franklin Electric submersible motor quote that touches these rules is in scope — not only the scenarios pictured here. Not covered: prices (the manual has none, so this page shows no price build-up), 6 and 8 inch motors, 200, 380 and 575 V motors, three-phase cable tables other than 230 and 460 V, drives, Hi-Temp motors, pumps and pipe, and whether a given pump is the right one for the well.

The AI sales agentBuilds the motor and cable quote from the conversation and says it is ready.
Predictika validatorChecks every rule at once and returns the verdict, each finding, and the computed figures.

7 scenarios in 3 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch

What the agent proposes

The AI sales agent says

Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.

Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)

Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run

Predictika validator


      
Waiting for the call.

Where rules-based CPQ gets it wrong

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Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.

What the validator caughtTypical rules-based CPQPredictika
Cable length limits by motor, voltage, size and voltage dropOnly with workarounds
The limit is a table of about 25 motors by 13 cable sizes at two voltage drops, and the quote has to be compared with the cell that applies.
The limit is looked up on every call and compared with the length in the quote and with the length the quote says the table allows.
Two cable sizes in one runOnly with workarounds
The manual's own example splits the run between two sizes, so each length has to be taken as a share of its own limit and the shares added.
The shares are added in one check and the answer names both limits.
Protection ratings that depend on the protection typeOnly with care
Standard fuse, dual-element fuse and breaker each have their own maximum for every motor, and it is easy to compare against the wrong one.
The type and the rating arrive together and are checked against the maximum for that type.
Cable the table shades for jacketed cableOnly with care
Whether a size is allowed depends on the motor and on whether the cable is jacketed or individual conductors, a choice made on a different line.
Motor, size and cable type are compared together, in any order the choices arrive.
Every problem returned in one answerOnly with workarounds
Rules tend to fire as the quote is saved or a step is completed, so a person often fixes one error and meets the next.
All findings come back together, whatever order the choices arrived in.

What this validator catches: findings from its test cases

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Every rule is checked on every call, in any order the choices arrive; one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.

1A 575 V Three-phase motor of 5 hp is not one of the 4-inch motors in this check (single-phase 115 V 1/2 hp and 230 V 1/2 to 5 hp; three-phase 230 V 1/2 to 7.5 hp and 460 V 1/2 to 15 hp).
2A 460 V Single-phase motor of 1 hp is not one of the 4-inch motors in this check (single-phase 115 V 1/2 hp and 230 V 1/2 to 5 hp; three-phase 230 V 1/2 to 7.5 hp and 460 V 1/2 to 15 hp).
3A 230 V Three-phase motor of 10 hp is not one of the 4-inch motors in this check (single-phase 115 V 1/2 hp and 230 V 1/2 to 5 hp; three-phase 230 V 1/2 to 7.5 hp and 460 V 1/2 to 15 hp).
4A 230 V Single-phase motor of 7.5 hp is not one of the 4-inch motors in this check (single-phase 115 V 1/2 hp and 230 V 1/2 to 5 hp; three-phase 230 V 1/2 to 7.5 hp and 460 V 1/2 to 15 hp).
5A cable run of 591 ft of #8 AWG is longer than the 590 ft the table allows for a 5 hp, 230 V motor at 5 percent voltage drop.
6A cable run of 355 ft of #8 AWG is longer than the 354 ft the table allows for a 5 hp, 230 V motor at 3 percent voltage drop.
7The cable size #14 AWG is too small for a 7.5 hp, 230 V motor; the table shows 0 feet for it.
8For a 5 hp, 230 V motor the table shades this cable size, so it meets NEC ampacity only as individual conductors, not as jacketed cable.
9160 ft of #10 AWG plus 310 ft of #8 AWG uses more than the voltage drop allowance for a 3 hp, 230 V motor (the table allows up to 300 ft of #10 AWG or 470 ft of #8 AWG alone).
10A second cable length of 50 ft is stated, but no second cable size.
11The manual requires aluminum wire two sizes larger than copper with oxidation inhibitors, and its tables are for copper; a person must confirm the size.
12The table shows a dash, not a length, for cable size #3 AWG on this motor; Franklin must confirm the length.
13The table shows a dash, not a length, for the second cable size #3 AWG on this motor; Franklin must confirm the length.
14A control box with a line contactor sits 76 ft from the power supply; that portion may not exceed 25 percent of the 300 ft the table allows in total.
15The 25 percent control box rule is stated for the total allowable cable length; with two cable sizes a person must confirm the placement.
16The order says the table allows 700 ft of #8 AWG for this motor; the table gives 590 ft at 5 percent voltage drop.
17The order says the table allows 590 ft of #8 AWG for this motor; the table gives 354 ft at 3 percent voltage drop.
18A 41 amp circuit breaker is above the NEC maximum of 40 amps for this motor.
19A 51 amp standard fuse is above the NEC maximum of 50 amps for this motor.
20A 31 amp dual-element fuse is above the NEC maximum of 30 amps for this motor.

Scenarios and results

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The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.

1. Cable type and cooling flow: A 7.5 hp, 230 V motor on jacketed #12 cable with 25 GPM of flow

The agent's request. Please quote a 4-inch, 7.5 hp, 230 V, three-phase submersible motor with 150 ft of #12 AWG copper jacketed cable, sized for 5 percent voltage drop. It starts 12 times a day; it runs in an 8 inch well with 25 GPM of flow past the motor. The quote says the table allows 160 ft of the first cable size for this motor. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Jacketed cable where only individual conductors qualify. For a 7.5 hp, 230 V motor the table shades this cable size, so it meets NEC ampacity only as individual conductors, not as jacketed cable.
  • Cooling flow below the minimum. The cooling flow of 25 GPM past the motor in an 8 inch well or sleeve is below the 31 GPM the manual requires; use a flow inducer sleeve or raise the flow.

2. Cable type and cooling flow: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote a 4-inch, 7.5 hp, 230 V, three-phase submersible motor with 150 ft of #12 AWG copper jacketed cable, sized for 5 percent voltage drop. It starts 12 times a day; it runs in an 8 inch well with 35 GPM of flow past the motor. The quote says the table allows 160 ft of the first cable size for this motor. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Jacketed cable where only individual conductors qualify. For a 7.5 hp, 230 V motor the table shades this cable size, so it meets NEC ampacity only as individual conductors, not as jacketed cable.

3. Cable type and cooling flow: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote a 4-inch, 7.5 hp, 230 V, three-phase submersible motor with 150 ft of #10 AWG copper jacketed cable, sized for 5 percent voltage drop. It starts 12 times a day; it runs in an 8 inch well with 35 GPM of flow past the motor. The quote says the table allows 260 ft of the first cable size for this motor. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Quote summary. The table allows up to 260 ft of #10 AWG copper cable for a 7.5 hp, 230 V motor at 5 percent voltage drop; NEC maximum protection is 80 A standard fuse, 45 A dual-element fuse or 60 A circuit breaker.

4. Two cable sizes: A 3 hp single-phase motor with 160 ft of #10 and 310 ft of #8

The agent's request. Please quote a 4-inch, 3 hp, 230 V, single-phase submersible motor with 160 ft of #10 AWG copper jacketed cable and 310 ft of #8 AWG copper, sized for 5 percent voltage drop. It starts 20 times a day; it runs in a 6 inch well with 40 GPM of flow past the motor. The quote says the table allows 300 ft of the first cable size for this motor. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Two-size cable run uses more than the voltage drop allowance. 160 ft of #10 AWG plus 310 ft of #8 AWG uses more than the voltage drop allowance for a 3 hp, 230 V motor (the table allows up to 300 ft of #10 AWG or 470 ft of #8 AWG alone).

5. Two cable sizes: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote a 4-inch, 3 hp, 230 V, single-phase submersible motor with 160 ft of #10 AWG copper jacketed cable and 310 ft of #6 AWG copper, sized for 5 percent voltage drop. It starts 20 times a day; it runs in a 6 inch well with 40 GPM of flow past the motor. The quote says the table allows 300 ft of the first cable size for this motor. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Quote summary. A 3 hp, 230 V motor; NEC maximum protection is 45 A standard fuse, 30 A dual-element fuse or 40 A circuit breaker.

6. Protection and transformers: A 5 hp, 460 V motor with a 30 A breaker and 3 kVA open transformers

The agent's request. Please quote a 4-inch, 5 hp, 460 V, three-phase submersible motor with 400 ft of #10 AWG copper jacketed cable, sized for 5 percent voltage drop. It is protected by a 30 A circuit breaker; it is fed from two transformers of 3 kVA each in an open connection; it starts 12 times a day; it runs in a 6 inch well with 40 GPM of flow past the motor. The quote says the table allows 1,500 ft of the first cable size for this motor. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Protection rating above the NEC maximum. A 30 amp circuit breaker is above the NEC maximum of 20 amps for this motor.
  • Transformer smaller than the manual lists. Transformers of 3 kVA each are smaller than the 5 kVA the manual lists for a 5 hp three-phase motor with two transformers in an open connection.

7. Protection and transformers: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote a 4-inch, 5 hp, 460 V, three-phase submersible motor with 400 ft of #10 AWG copper jacketed cable, sized for 5 percent voltage drop. It is protected by a 20 A circuit breaker; it is fed from two transformers of 5 kVA each in an open connection; it starts 12 times a day; it runs in a 6 inch well with 40 GPM of flow past the motor. The quote says the table allows 1,500 ft of the first cable size for this motor. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Quote summary. The table allows up to 1,500 ft of #10 AWG copper cable for a 5 hp, 460 V motor at 5 percent voltage drop; NEC maximum protection is 25 A standard fuse, 15 A dual-element fuse or 20 A circuit breaker.

Narration transcript

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The text of the narrated walkthrough, step by step.

  1. Welcome to a demo of Predictika's Validator. An AI sales agent prepares a quote for a 4-inch Franklin Electric submersible motor with its drop cable, the fuse or breaker that protects it. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the manual's tables and returns a verdict, every reason and the figures it computed.
  2. I will start with the first request by the agent.
  3. The agent says. Please quote a 4-inch, 7.5 hp, 230 V, three-phase submersible motor with 150 ft of #12 AWG copper jacketed cable, sized for 5 percent voltage drop. It starts 12 times a day; it runs in an 8 inch well with 25 GPM of flow past the motor. The rest of the request is on screen.
  4. Before it goes out, the agent calls the validator.
  5. Blocked, with two findings, all in one answer. For a 7.5 hp, 230 V motor the table shades this cable size, so it meets NEC ampacity only as individual conductors, not as jacketed cable. The cooling flow of 25 GPM past the motor in an 8 inch well or sleeve is below the 31 GPM the manual requires; use a flow inducer sleeve or raise the flow.
  6. The validator returned two blocking findings in one answer. A check that reads one field at a time would pass most of this; it shows only when the choices in the quote are checked against each other.
  7. What this shows: for cable the table shades for jacketed cable, a rules-based CPQ is error-prone for this.
  8. Now the agent resubmits.
  9. The corrected request. It changes the cooling flow to 35.
  10. It calls the validator again.
  11. Still blocked, with one finding, all in one answer. For a 7.5 hp, 230 V motor the table shades this cable size, so it meets NEC ampacity only as individual conductors, not as jacketed cable.
  12. One finding cleared; still blocked on jacketed cable where only individual conductors qualify.
  13. The agent resubmits once more.
  14. The revised request. It changes the cable to 150 ft of #10 AWG, jacketed cable and the cable length stated as allowed to 260 ft.
  15. It calls the validator once more.
  16. This time the validator clears it.
  17. The earlier finding is cleared, and the validator's figure matches the quote.
  18. Two problems caught in one call, fixed in two passes, and a clean quote. That is the value of Predictika's validator: catching mistakes before they reach the customer.