Predictika · Electrical equipment orders: molded case circuit breakers

An AI sales agent's breaker order, checked before it goes out

An AI sales agent puts together an order for an HGM-type molded case circuit breaker from HYUNDAI ELECTRIC's HG-Series catalog: the frame and type, the rated current, the pole count, the short-circuit current and load at the site, the cabinet temperature and altitude, and the accessories. Before it goes out, the agent sends the order to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the published tables and returns a verdict, every reason and the figures it computed.

Scope: HGM-type molded case circuit breakers, 32 to 800 AF: type and breaking capacity, rated current and dial, temperature and altitude derating, accessories and plug-in rules. See everything this validator covers

This validator models orders for one product line, the HGM-type breakers in the public HYUNDAI ELECTRIC HG-Series MCCB and ELCB catalog, using its selection, derating and accessory tables, not just the scenarios shown below.

  • Type and breaking capacity — the ten frames from HGM30 to HGM800 and the E, S, H and L breaking-capacity types offered on each, the ultimate breaking capacity at the system voltage, the rated currents listed per frame, and the pole counts offered.
  • Current and derating — the current-setting dial, the current the breaker carries at the cabinet temperature (10 to 70 degrees C) and at altitude (up to 5,000 m, with the voltage limit at altitude), compared with the load.
  • Accessories and plug-in types — the motor operator, mechanical interlock, terminal extensions, DIN rail adapter and undervoltage trip delay, and the plug-in types (TDM, TDF, TDA), each only on the frames and pole counts the catalog lists.
  • Stated figures — the breaking capacity and carrying current the agent states are compared with the catalog on every call.

Any order for these breakers that touches these rules is in scope — not only the scenarios pictured here. Not covered: prices (the catalog has none, so this validator produces no price build-up or line-item quote), earth leakage breakers and other series, trip-curve and coordination studies, cable and busbar sizing, and the 4-pole neutral arrangements beyond what the catalog lists.

The AI sales agentBuilds the breaker order from the conversation and says it is ready.
Predictika validatorChecks every rule at once and returns the verdict, each finding, and the computed figures.

7 scenarios in 3 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch

What the agent proposes

The AI sales agent says

Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.

Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)

Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run

Predictika validator


      
Waiting for the call.

Where rules-based CPQ gets it wrong

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Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.

What the validator caughtTypical rules-based CPQPredictika
Breaking capacity that depends on frame, type and voltageOnly with care
Each frame and type has six voltage ratings; that is a grid of numbers to load and keep in step with the catalog, and a missed cell lets an under-rated breaker through.
The rating is looked up from the frame, type and voltage on every call and compared with the fault current.
A current rating that falls with temperatureOnly with workarounds
The current a breaker carries drops as the cabinet gets hotter, by a different curve for each frame group; a rule has to read the temperature and the frame together, which a single rated-current attribute cannot express.
The carrying current is computed from the frame, rating and temperature, then compared with the load.
Accessories that exist on some frames and pole counts onlyOnly with care
The motor operator, interlock, terminal extensions and DIN adapter each have their own list of frames and poles; each is a separate rule keyed to a model list.
Frame, poles and accessories are in one request and checked together.
Stated figures that disagree with the catalogOnly with care
The figures the agent states are free-entry fields; a rule can compare them with the catalog, but only if someone writes and maintains it for every frame.
The stated figures travel with the order and are compared with the computed ones on every call.
Every problem returned in one answerOnly with workarounds
Rules tend to fire as the order is saved or a step is completed, so a rep often fixes one error and meets the next.
All findings come back together, whatever order the choices arrived in.

What this validator catches: findings from its test cases

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Every rule is checked on every call, in any order the choices arrive; one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.

1The prospective short-circuit current of 20.5 kA is above the 20.0 kA rated ultimate breaking capacity (Icu) of the selected type at this voltage.
2The prospective short-circuit current of 38.5 kA is above the 38.0 kA rated ultimate breaking capacity (Icu) of the selected type at this voltage.
3The short-circuit current of 28.0 kA is above the 15.0 kA service breaking capacity (Ics) of this type, though within its ultimate capacity (Icu); the breaker may need replacing after such a fault, so a person should confirm.
4The short-circuit current of 30.0 kA is above the 15.0 kA service breaking capacity (Ics) of this type, though within its ultimate capacity (Icu); the breaker may need replacing after such a fault, so a person should confirm.
5The prospective short-circuit current of 31.0 kA is above the 30.0 kA rated ultimate breaking capacity (Icu) of the selected type at this voltage.
6The short-circuit current of 19.6 kA is above the 19.5 kA service breaking capacity (Ics) of this type, though within its ultimate capacity (Icu); the breaker may need replacing after such a fault, so a person should confirm.
7The selected type code is not offered on this frame: the HGM30 is listed with the E and S types only, and the HGM800 with the S, H and L types.
8A rated current of 70 A is not offered on the selected frame.
9A rated current of 63 A is not offered on the selected frame.
10A rated current of 400 A is not offered on the selected frame.
11The selected current-setting dial is not offered on this frame: 32 to 250 AF frames adjust to 80, 90 or 100 percent of the rated current, and 400 to 800 AF frames to 63, 80 or 100 percent.
12The DC 250 V breaking capacity is listed for 2-pole breakers only; the order has 3 poles.
13The prospective short-circuit current of 10.5 kA is above the 10.0 kA rated ultimate breaking capacity (Icu) of the selected type at this voltage.
14The load current of 80.5 A is above the 80.0 A that the breaker carries at its current-setting dial.
15The ambient temperature of 71 degrees C is above the 70 degrees C limit of the catalog derating table.
16The load current of 104.0 A is above the 100.0 A that the breaker carries at its current-setting dial.
17At the site ambient temperature the breaker is rated 97.6 A, below the load current of 97.7 A.
18At the site ambient temperature the breaker is rated 98.0 A, below the load current of 99.0 A.
19Plug-in types are listed for 3-pole breakers only (the 2-row TDA type also for 2 poles on the HGM30, HGM50 E/S, HGM60 and HGM100); the order has 4 poles.
20Plug-in types are listed for 3-pole breakers only (the 2-row TDA type also for 2 poles on the HGM30, HGM50 E/S, HGM60 and HGM100); the order has 2 poles.
21The TDF and TDA plug-in types are listed up to 125 AF; the 160 AF and larger frames take the TDM types only.
22At the site altitude the breaker carries 96.0 A, below the load current of 97.0 A.
23At the site altitude of 3000 m the maximum operational voltage of the breaker is 590 V, below the system voltage.
24At the site altitude of 5000 m the maximum operational voltage of the breaker is 460 V, below the system voltage.
25The site altitude of 5001 m is above the 5,000 m limit of the catalog altitude table.
26A protected neutral pole is needed, but the 4-pole arrangement listed is 4P3D, whose neutral pole is unprotected; a 4P4D arrangement is not offered.
27The motor operator is listed for 3-pole and 4-pole breakers only; the order has 2 poles.
28On the 160 AF and larger frames the mechanical interlock is listed for 3-pole and 4-pole breakers only; the order has 2 poles.
29Terminal extensions (busbars) are listed for the 160 AF and larger frames only.
30The DIN rail adapter is listed for the HGM30, HGM50 E/S, HGM60 and HGM100 only.

Scenarios and results

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The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.

1. Feeder fault current: Standard-type 100 A breaker on a 25 kA feeder, stated at 30 kA

The agent's request. Please quote an HD Hyundai Electric HGM100 type S molded case circuit breaker, 3 poles, rated 100 A, at 380 V. The site has a prospective short-circuit current of 25 kA and a load of 80 A, in a cabinet at 40 degrees C at 1,000 m altitude. The quote states a breaking capacity of 30 kA and a carrying current of 100 A at the site temperature. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Short-circuit current above the breaking capacity. The prospective short-circuit current of 25.0 kA is above the 20.0 kA rated ultimate breaking capacity (Icu) of the selected type at this voltage.
  • Stated breaking capacity does not match. The quote states a breaking capacity of 30.0 kA; the selected type is rated 20.0 kA at this voltage.

2. Feeder fault current: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote an HD Hyundai Electric HGM125 type S molded case circuit breaker, 3 poles, rated 125 A, at 380 V. The site has a prospective short-circuit current of 25 kA and a load of 80 A, in a cabinet at 40 degrees C at 1,000 m altitude. The quote states a breaking capacity of 26 kA and a carrying current of 125 A at the site temperature. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Order summary. The selected breaker has a rated ultimate breaking capacity (Icu) of 26.0 kA and carries 125.0 A at the site ambient temperature.

3. Hot cabinet: 100 A breaker in a 60 degree C cabinet carrying 99 A

The agent's request. Please quote an HD Hyundai Electric HGM100 type S molded case circuit breaker, 3 poles, rated 100 A, at 380 V. The site has a prospective short-circuit current of 15 kA and a load of 99 A, in a cabinet at 60 degrees C at 1,000 m altitude. The quote states a breaking capacity of 20 kA and a carrying current of 100 A at the site temperature. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Load above the derated current at site temperature. At the site ambient temperature the breaker is rated 95.2 A, below the load current of 99.0 A.
  • Stated carrying current does not match. The quote states a carrying current of 100.0 A at the site temperature; the catalog derating table gives 95.2 A.

4. Hot cabinet: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote an HD Hyundai Electric HGM125 type S molded case circuit breaker, 3 poles, rated 125 A, at 380 V. The site has a prospective short-circuit current of 15 kA and a load of 99 A, in a cabinet at 60 degrees C at 1,000 m altitude. The quote states a breaking capacity of 26 kA and a carrying current of 117.2 A at the site temperature. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Order summary. The selected breaker has a rated ultimate breaking capacity (Icu) of 26.0 kA and carries 117.2 A at the site ambient temperature.

5. Accessories and poles: Two-pole 125 A breaker with a motor operator and a DIN rail adapter

The agent's request. Please quote an HD Hyundai Electric HGM125 type S molded case circuit breaker, 2 poles, rated 125 A, at 380 V. The site has a prospective short-circuit current of 15 kA and a load of 90 A, in a cabinet at 40 degrees C at 1,000 m altitude. It needs a motor operator and a DIN rail adapter. The quote states a breaking capacity of 26 kA and a carrying current of 125 A at the site temperature. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Motor operator not offered on 2 poles. The motor operator is listed for 3-pole and 4-pole breakers only; the order has 2 poles.
  • DIN rail adapter not offered on this model. The DIN rail adapter is listed for the HGM30, HGM50 E/S, HGM60 and HGM100 only.

6. Accessories and poles: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote an HD Hyundai Electric HGM100 type S molded case circuit breaker, 2 poles, rated 100 A, at 380 V. The site has a prospective short-circuit current of 15 kA and a load of 90 A, in a cabinet at 40 degrees C at 1,000 m altitude. It needs a motor operator and a DIN rail adapter. The quote states a breaking capacity of 20 kA and a carrying current of 100 A at the site temperature. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Motor operator not offered on 2 poles. The motor operator is listed for 3-pole and 4-pole breakers only; the order has 2 poles.

7. Accessories and poles: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote an HD Hyundai Electric HGM100 type S molded case circuit breaker, 3 poles, rated 100 A, at 380 V. The site has a prospective short-circuit current of 15 kA and a load of 90 A, in a cabinet at 40 degrees C at 1,000 m altitude. It needs a motor operator and a DIN rail adapter. The quote states a breaking capacity of 20 kA and a carrying current of 100 A at the site temperature. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Order summary. The selected breaker has a rated ultimate breaking capacity (Icu) of 20.0 kA and carries 100.0 A at the site ambient temperature.

Narration transcript

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The text of the narrated walkthrough, step by step.

  1. Welcome to a demo of Predictika's Validator. An AI sales agent puts together an order for an HGM-type molded case circuit breaker from HYUNDAI ELECTRIC's HG-Series catalog: the frame and type, the rated current, the pole count, and more. Before it goes out, the agent sends the order to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the published tables and returns a verdict, every reason and the figures it computed.
  2. I will start with the first request by the agent.
  3. The agent says. Please quote an HD Hyundai Electric HGM125 type S molded case circuit breaker, 2 poles, rated 125 A, at 380 V. The site has a prospective short-circuit current of 15 kA and a load of 90 A, in a cabinet at 40 degrees C at 1,000 m altitude. The rest of the request is on screen. The quote states a breaking capacity of 26 kA and a carrying current of 125 A at the site temperature.
  4. Before it goes out, the agent calls the validator.
  5. Blocked, with two findings, all in one answer. The motor operator is listed for 3-pole and 4-pole breakers only; the order has 2 poles. The DIN rail adapter is listed for the HGM30, HGM50 E/S, HGM60 and HGM100 only.
  6. The validator returned two blocking findings in one answer. A check that reads one field at a time would pass most of this; it shows only when the choices in the quote are checked against each other.
  7. What this shows: for accessories that exist on some frames and pole counts only, a rules-based CPQ is error-prone for this.
  8. Now the agent resubmits.
  9. The corrected request. It changes the model to HGM100 type S, the rated current to 100 A, the stated breaking capacity to 20 and the stated carrying current to 100.
  10. It calls the validator again.
  11. Still blocked, with one finding, all in one answer. The motor operator is listed for 3-pole and 4-pole breakers only; the order has 2 poles.
  12. One finding cleared. Still blocking: motor operator not offered on 2 poles.
  13. The agent resubmits once more.
  14. The revised request. It changes the poles to 3.
  15. It calls the validator once more.
  16. This time the validator clears it.
  17. The earlier finding is cleared.
  18. Two problems caught in one call, fixed in two passes, and a clean quote. That is the value of Predictika's validator: catching mistakes before they reach the customer. Now you can try the other scenarios yourself.