Predictika · Hydraulic cartridge valve ordering-code configuration

An AI sales agent's Sun Hydraulics relief valve order, checked before it goes out

An AI sales agent prepares an order for Sun Hydraulics direct-acting relief cartridges: the model, control, adjustment range, seal and material or coating, for an application that needs a certain flow and relief setting. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the ordering rules published on Sun Hydraulics' model pages and returns a verdict, every reason and the figures it computed.

Scope: Sun Hydraulics RDFA and RDBA direct-acting relief cartridges: controls, adjustment ranges, seals, coatings, capacity and relief setting. See everything this validator covers

This validator models orders for these two relief cartridges, not just the scenarios shown below.

  • Ordering-code combinations — which controls each model offers; that an RDFA handknob needs adjustment range E or S; that an RDBA hex head screw with locknut needs range A, B, E or W; that stainless steel or zinc-nickel coating needs screw or tamper resistant control; and that an RDBA EPDM seal needs tamper resistant, handknob or screw control.
  • Application fit — the flow the application needs against the model capacity (RDFA 50 gpm, RDBA 12 gpm), the relief setting it needs against the chosen adjustment range, and the capacity stated on the order against the model's capacity.
  • Approval — a relief setting above the 5000 psi maximum operating pressure stated on the model pages goes to a person to confirm.

Any RDFA or RDBA order that touches these rules is in scope — not only the scenarios pictured here. Not covered: prices (the model pages publish none, so no price build-up or line-item quote is produced), other Sun Hydraulics cartridges, manifolds, electronic controls and other Helios products. Assumption: the approval for a setting above 5000 psi is the model builder's reading of the two stated figures (adjustment ranges reaching 6000 psi and a 5000 psi maximum operating pressure), not an explicit rule on the pages.

The AI sales agentBuilds the valve order from the application requirements and says it is ready.
Predictika validatorChecks every rule at once and returns the verdict, each finding, and the computed figures.

8 scenarios in 3 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch

What the agent proposes

The AI sales agent says

Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.

Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)

Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run

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Where rules-based CPQ gets it wrong
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Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.

    
What the validator caughtTypical rules-based CPQPredictika
Option combinations that depend on other options, such as a handknob only on low rangesOnly with care
Each restriction links two or more choices on the order code, so every pairing has to be written and kept in step for each model.		All choices are in one request and every restriction is checked together on every call.
Two models with different control lists and capacitiesOnly with care
The same option letters mean different limits on each model, so rules are duplicated per model and drift apart.		The model is one more choice and the limits follow from it.
A relief setting that must fall inside the chosen adjustment rangeEasy
A range check against a number; routine in a product-rules CPQ.		The same check, made together with all the others on every call.
A capacity stated on the order that disagrees with the modelOnly with workarounds
The stated figure is not part of the configuration, so comparing it with the model takes extra formulas.		The stated figure is one more field in the request and is compared with the computed capacity on every call.
Every problem returned in one answerOnly with workarounds
Rules tend to fire as the order is saved or a step is completed, so a rep often fixes one error and meets the next.		All findings come back together, whatever order the choices arrived in.

  

  

    
What this validator catches: findings from its test cases
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Every rule is checked on every call, in any order the choices arrive; one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.

    
1The control chosen is not offered on this valve model (RDFA offers screw adjustment, tamper resistant, capped and lockwired, and handknob; RDBA offers screw adjustment, tamper resistant, handknob and hex head screw with locknut).
2On the RDFA a handknob is available only with adjustment range E (100-400 psi) or S (50-200 psi).
3On the RDBA a hex head screw with locknut is available only with adjustment range A, B, E or W.
4Stainless steel (passivated) and zinc-nickel mild steel are available only with screw adjustment or tamper resistant control.
5On the RDBA an EPDM seal is available only with tamper resistant, handknob or screw adjustment control.
6The application needs 51 gpm; this valve model has a capacity of 50 gpm.
7The application needs 13 gpm; this valve model has a capacity of 12 gpm.
8The application needs a relief setting of 499 psi; the chosen adjustment range covers 500 to 3,000 psi.
9The application needs a relief setting of 3,001 psi; the chosen adjustment range covers 500 to 3,000 psi.
10The quote states a capacity of 12 gpm; the valve model has 50 gpm.
11The quote states a capacity of 50 gpm; the valve model has 12 gpm.
12The relief setting is above the 5,000 psi (350 bar) maximum operating pressure stated for this valve; a person should confirm it is acceptable.
13The application needs a relief setting of 6,100 psi; the chosen adjustment range covers 1,000 to 6,000 psi.

  

  

    
Scenarios and results
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The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.

    
1. Handknob and relief setting: An order for 24 RDFA relief cartridges with a handknob, for a 300 psi relief setting

    
The agent's request. Please prepare an order for 24 Sun Hydraulics RDFA direct-acting relief cartridges with a handknob, adjustment range A (500-3000 psi) and Viton seals. The application needs 30 gpm and a relief setting of 300 psi, and the order states a capacity of 50 gpm. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Handknob needs a low range. On the RDFA a handknob is available only with adjustment range E (100-400 psi) or S (50-200 psi).
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  • Relief setting outside the adjustment range. The application needs a relief setting of 300 psi; the chosen adjustment range covers 500 to 3,000 psi.
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2. Handknob and relief setting: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please prepare an order for 24 Sun Hydraulics RDFA direct-acting relief cartridges with a handknob, adjustment range E (100-400 psi) and Viton seals. The application needs 30 gpm and a relief setting of 300 psi, and the order states a capacity of 50 gpm. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Valve summary. 24 valve(s) with a capacity of 50 gpm each; adjustment range 100 to 400 psi.
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3. Coating, seal and capacity: An order for 40 RDBA relief cartridges with a hex head screw, zinc-nickel coating and EPDM seals

    
The agent's request. Please prepare an order for 40 Sun Hydraulics RDBA direct-acting relief cartridges with a hex head screw with locknut, zinc-nickel mild steel material, adjustment range C (1000-6000 psi) and EPDM seals. The application needs 14 gpm and a relief setting of 4,000 psi, and the order states a capacity of 12 gpm. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Hex head screw needs a listed range. On the RDBA a hex head screw with locknut is available only with adjustment range A, B, E or W.
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  • Coating or stainless needs screw or tamper control. Stainless steel (passivated) and zinc-nickel mild steel are available only with screw adjustment or tamper resistant control.
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  • EPDM seal not available with this control. On the RDBA an EPDM seal is available only with tamper resistant, handknob or screw adjustment control.
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  • Flow above the valve capacity. The application needs 14 gpm; this valve model has a capacity of 12 gpm.
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4. Coating, seal and capacity: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please prepare an order for 40 Sun Hydraulics RDBA direct-acting relief cartridges with standard screw adjustment, zinc-nickel mild steel material, adjustment range C (1000-6000 psi) and EPDM seals. The application needs 14 gpm and a relief setting of 4,000 psi, and the order states a capacity of 12 gpm. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Flow above the valve capacity. The application needs 14 gpm; this valve model has a capacity of 12 gpm.
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5. Coating, seal and capacity: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please prepare an order for 40 Sun Hydraulics RDFA direct-acting relief cartridges with standard screw adjustment, zinc-nickel mild steel material, adjustment range C (1000-6000 psi) and EPDM seals. The application needs 14 gpm and a relief setting of 4,000 psi, and the order states a capacity of 50 gpm. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Valve summary. 40 valve(s) with a capacity of 50 gpm each; adjustment range 1,000 to 6,000 psi.
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6. Stated capacity and high setting: An order for 60 RDFA relief cartridges with a 5,500 psi relief setting

    
The agent's request. Please prepare an order for 60 Sun Hydraulics RDFA direct-acting relief cartridges with tamper resistant, factory-set control, stainless steel (passivated) material, adjustment range A (500-3000 psi) and Buna-N seals. The application needs 40 gpm and a relief setting of 5,500 psi, and the order states a capacity of 60 gpm. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Relief setting outside the adjustment range. The application needs a relief setting of 5,500 psi; the chosen adjustment range covers 500 to 3,000 psi.
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  • Stated capacity does not match. The quote states a capacity of 60 gpm; the valve model has 50 gpm.
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  • Setting above the maximum operating pressure. The relief setting is above the 5,000 psi (350 bar) maximum operating pressure stated for this valve; a person should confirm it is acceptable.
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7. Stated capacity and high setting: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please prepare an order for 60 Sun Hydraulics RDFA direct-acting relief cartridges with tamper resistant, factory-set control, stainless steel (passivated) material, adjustment range C (1000-6000 psi) and Buna-N seals. The application needs 40 gpm and a relief setting of 5,500 psi, and the order states a capacity of 50 gpm. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Needs approval.

    
    
      
  • Setting above the maximum operating pressure. The relief setting is above the 5,000 psi (350 bar) maximum operating pressure stated for this valve; a person should confirm it is acceptable.
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  • Valve summary. 60 valve(s) with a capacity of 50 gpm each; adjustment range 1,000 to 6,000 psi.
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8. Stated capacity and high setting: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please prepare an order for 60 Sun Hydraulics RDFA direct-acting relief cartridges with tamper resistant, factory-set control, stainless steel (passivated) material, adjustment range C (1000-6000 psi) and Buna-N seals. The application needs 40 gpm and a relief setting of 4,800 psi, and the order states a capacity of 50 gpm. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Valve summary. 60 valve(s) with a capacity of 50 gpm each; adjustment range 1,000 to 6,000 psi.
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Narration transcript
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The text of the narrated walkthrough, step by step.

    
    
      
  1. Welcome to a demo of Predictika's Validator. An AI sales agent prepares an order for Sun Hydraulics direct-acting relief cartridges: the model, control, adjustment range, and more. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the ordering rules published on Sun Hydraulics' model pages and returns a verdict, every reason and the figures it computed.
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  2. I will start with the first request by the agent.
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  3. The agent says. Please prepare an order for 40 Sun Hydraulics RDBA direct-acting relief cartridges with a hex head screw with locknut, zinc-nickel mild steel material. The application needs 14 gpm and a relief setting of 4,000 psi, and the order states a capacity of 12 gpm. The rest of the request is on screen.
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  4. Before it goes out, the agent calls the validator.
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  5. Blocked, with four findings, all in one answer. On the RDBA a hex head screw with locknut is available only with adjustment range A, B, E or W. Stainless steel (passivated) and zinc-nickel mild steel are available only with screw adjustment or tamper resistant control. On the RDBA an EPDM seal is available only with tamper resistant, handknob or screw adjustment control. The other one is on screen.
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  6. The validator returned four blocking findings in one answer. A check that reads one field at a time would pass most of this; it shows only when the choices in the quote are checked against each other.
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  7. What this shows: for option combinations that depend on other options, such as a handknob only on low ranges, a rules-based CPQ is error-prone for this.
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  8. Now the agent resubmits.
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  9. The corrected request. It changes the control to standard screw adjustment.
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  10. It calls the validator again.
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  11. Still blocked, with one finding, all in one answer. The application needs 14 gpm; this valve model has a capacity of 12 gpm.
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  12. Three findings cleared. Still blocking: flow above the valve capacity.
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  13. The agent resubmits once more.
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  14. The revised request. It changes the valve model to RDFA and the capacity as stated on the order to 50 gpm.
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  15. It calls the validator once more.
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  16. This time the validator clears it.
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  17. The earlier finding is cleared.
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  18. Four problems caught in one call, fixed in two passes, and a clean quote. That is the value of Predictika's validator: catching mistakes before they reach the customer. Now you can try the other scenarios yourself.
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