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An AI sales agent's aluminum honeycomb core order, checked before it goes out

An AI sales agent prepares an order for hexagonal aluminum honeycomb core: coating, alloy, cell size, density, thickness, block size and the strengths the buyer needs. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the published core tables and returns a verdict, every reason and the figures it looked up.

Scope: Hexagonal aluminum honeycomb core in CR III 5052, CR III 5056 and CR-PAA 5052 and 5056: cell size, density, thickness, block size and required strengths. See everything this validator covers

This validator models hexagonal aluminum honeycomb core orders for the four coating and alloy tables in the Hexcel brochure, not just the scenarios shown below.

  • Core selection — coating (CR III or CR-PAA), alloy (5052 or 5056), cell size (1/8 to 3/8 in) and nominal density must be a combination listed in the published table for that coating and alloy; anything else is flagged as a special-order core to confirm with the manufacturer.
  • Strengths — the minimum stabilized compressive strength and the L and W plate shear strengths the order requires are compared with the published minimums for the selected core, and the minimum strength the quote states must equal the published figure.
  • Size and test conditions — the CR III 5052 table gives a maximum block of 48 in. x 60 in. and a maximum thickness of 1.00 in; published values were tested at 0.625 in thickness, are preliminary for the 1/8 in 10.0 pcf core, and are beam-shear values for the 12.0 pcf core.

Any order for these four core types that touches these rules is in scope — not only the scenarios pictured here. Not covered: prices (Hexcel publishes no price list for honeycomb, so this validator produces no price build-up or line-item quote), Flex-Core, OX-Core and nonmetallic honeycomb (Nomex, fiberglass, HRH, HRP) cores, moduli and crush strength, and any thickness correction beyond flagging it for engineering review.

The AI sales agentBuilds the core order from the conversation and says it is ready.
Predictika validatorChecks every rule at once and returns the verdict, each finding, and the computed figures.

7 scenarios in 3 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch

What the agent proposes

The AI sales agent says

Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.

Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)

Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run

Predictika validator


      
Waiting for the call.

Where rules-based CPQ gets it wrong

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Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.

What the validator caughtTypical rules-based CPQPredictika
Core combinations that exist only in some tablesOnly with care
Each coating and alloy has its own list of cell size and density pairs (for example 1/4 in 7.9 pcf exists for CR-PAA 5052 but not CR III 5052). A rules table can hold the lists, but it is roughly a hundred rows to keep in step with the brochure.
The coating, alloy, cell size and density are in one request and checked against the table for that coating and alloy; a pair that is not listed is flagged for confirmation.
Required strengths against the guaranteed minimum for the chosen coreOnly with workarounds
The guaranteed minimum depends on all four choices together, so each requirement needs a lookup keyed on them, and the same lookup has to be repeated for the stated figure.
The minimums are looked up from the combination on every call and compared with each requirement and with the figure the quote states.
A figure the quote states that must equal the published minimumOnly with care
A stated figure is a free-entry field; a rule can compare it with a looked-up value, but someone has to write and maintain that comparison.
The stated figure travels with the order and is compared with the looked-up figure on every call.
Limits that apply to only one table (CR III 5052 block size and thickness)Only with care
The maximum block and thickness are printed under one table only, so the rule has to be scoped to that coating and alloy and not leak to the others.
The limits are attached to the CR III 5052 core and not to the other three.
Every problem returned in one answerOnly with workarounds
Rules tend to fire as the order is saved or a step is completed, so a rep often fixes one error and meets the next.
All findings come back together, whatever order the choices arrived in.

What this validator catches: findings from its test cases

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Every rule is checked on every call, in any order the choices arrive; one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.

1The order requires a stabilized compressive strength of at least 400 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 370 psi.
2The order requires an L-direction plate shear strength of at least 300 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 265 psi.
3The order requires a W-direction plate shear strength of at least 200 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 155 psi.
4The quote states a minimum stabilized compressive strength of 400 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 370 psi.
5The published properties were tested at 0.625 in thickness and the order is for 1000 thousandths of an inch, so the strength requirements need an engineering check (the brochure gives a thickness correction curve for shear).
6The CR III 5052 table lists a maximum core thickness of 1.00 in; the order asks for 1250 thousandths of an inch.
7The published properties were tested at 0.625 in thickness and the order is for 1250 thousandths of an inch, so the strength requirements need an engineering check (the brochure gives a thickness correction curve for shear).
8The CR III 5052 table lists a maximum block size of 48 in. x 60 in.; the order asks for 60 in. x 60 in.
9The CR III 5052 table lists a maximum block size of 48 in. x 60 in.; the order asks for 72 in. x 48 in.
10This combination of coating, alloy, cell size and density is not in the published tables for it; the brochure says other core types, cell sizes and densities can be produced, so it is a special-order core to confirm with the manufacturer.
11The quote states a minimum stabilized compressive strength of 300 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 0 psi.
12The published values for this core are marked preliminary (limited testing), so they are not guaranteed averages.
13The published shear values for this 12.0 pcf core are beam-flexure results, not plate shear results.
14The order requires a stabilized compressive strength of at least 450 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 370 psi.
15The order requires an L-direction plate shear strength of at least 320 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 265 psi.
16The order requires a W-direction plate shear strength of at least 185 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 155 psi.
17The order requires a stabilized compressive strength of at least 150 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 100 psi.
18The order requires an L-direction plate shear strength of at least 100 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 80 psi.
19The order requires a W-direction plate shear strength of at least 60 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 46 psi.
20The CR III 5052 table lists a maximum block size of 48 in. x 60 in.; the order asks for 72 in. x 60 in.
21The quote states a minimum stabilized compressive strength of 120 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 100 psi.

Scenarios and results

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The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.

1. Alloy and strength requirements: A CR III 5052 core ordered for strengths that its published minimums do not reach

The agent's request. Please quote CR III 5052 hexagonal aluminum honeycomb, 1/4 in cells, 4.3 pcf, 0.625 in thick, in a 48 in. x 60 in. block, for a buyer who needs a stabilized compressive strength of at least 450 psi, L shear of at least 320 psi and W shear of at least 185 psi. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Required compressive strength above published minimum. The order requires a stabilized compressive strength of at least 450 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 370 psi.
  • Required L shear strength above published minimum. The order requires an L-direction plate shear strength of at least 320 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 265 psi.
  • Required W shear strength above published minimum. The order requires a W-direction plate shear strength of at least 185 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 155 psi.

2. Alloy and strength requirements: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote CR III 5056 hexagonal aluminum honeycomb, 1/4 in cells, 4.3 pcf, 0.625 in thick, in a 48 in. x 60 in. block, for a buyer who needs a stabilized compressive strength of at least 450 psi, L shear of at least 320 psi and W shear of at least 185 psi. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Published minimums. Published minimums for this core: stabilized compressive 465 psi, L shear 325 psi, W shear 190 psi.

3. Block size and thickness: An oversized, thick CR III 5052 block

The agent's request. Please quote CR III 5052 hexagonal aluminum honeycomb, 1/4 in cells, 4.3 pcf, 1.250 in thick, in a 72 in. x 60 in. block, for a buyer who needs a stabilized compressive strength of at least 350 psi, L shear of at least 250 psi and W shear of at least 150 psi. The quote states a minimum stabilized compressive strength of 370 psi. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Core thicker than the published maximum. The CR III 5052 table lists a maximum core thickness of 1.00 in; the order asks for 1250 thousandths of an inch.
  • Block larger than the published maximum. The CR III 5052 table lists a maximum block size of 48 in. x 60 in.; the order asks for 72 in. x 60 in.
  • Published at 0.625 in thickness. The published properties were tested at 0.625 in thickness and the order is for 1250 thousandths of an inch, so the strength requirements need an engineering check (the brochure gives a thickness correction curve for shear).

4. Block size and thickness: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote CR III 5052 hexagonal aluminum honeycomb, 1/4 in cells, 4.3 pcf, 1.000 in thick, in a 48 in. x 60 in. block, for a buyer who needs a stabilized compressive strength of at least 350 psi, L shear of at least 250 psi and W shear of at least 150 psi. The quote states a minimum stabilized compressive strength of 370 psi. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Needs approval.

  • Published at 0.625 in thickness. The published properties were tested at 0.625 in thickness and the order is for 1000 thousandths of an inch, so the strength requirements need an engineering check (the brochure gives a thickness correction curve for shear).
  • Published minimums. Published minimums for this core: stabilized compressive 370 psi, L shear 265 psi, W shear 155 psi.

5. Block size and thickness: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote CR III 5052 hexagonal aluminum honeycomb, 1/4 in cells, 4.3 pcf, 0.625 in thick, in a 48 in. x 60 in. block, for a buyer who needs a stabilized compressive strength of at least 350 psi, L shear of at least 250 psi and W shear of at least 150 psi. The quote states a minimum stabilized compressive strength of 370 psi. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Published minimums. Published minimums for this core: stabilized compressive 370 psi, L shear 265 psi, W shear 155 psi.

6. Core in the published table: A 7.9 pcf CR III 5052 core with a stated minimum

The agent's request. Please quote CR III 5052 hexagonal aluminum honeycomb, 1/4 in cells, 7.9 pcf, 0.625 in thick, in a 48 in. x 60 in. block, for a buyer who needs a stabilized compressive strength of at least 1000 psi, L shear of at least 600 psi and W shear of at least 380 psi. The quote states a minimum stabilized compressive strength of 1050 psi. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Stated minimum differs from the table. The quote states a minimum stabilized compressive strength of 1050 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 0 psi.
  • Core not in the standard tables. This combination of coating, alloy, cell size and density is not in the published tables for it; the brochure says other core types, cell sizes and densities can be produced, so it is a special-order core to confirm with the manufacturer.

7. Core in the published table: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote CR-PAA 5052 hexagonal aluminum honeycomb, 1/4 in cells, 7.9 pcf, 0.625 in thick, in a 48 in. x 60 in. block, for a buyer who needs a stabilized compressive strength of at least 1000 psi, L shear of at least 600 psi and W shear of at least 380 psi. The quote states a minimum stabilized compressive strength of 1050 psi. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Published minimums. Published minimums for this core: stabilized compressive 1050 psi, L shear 650 psi, W shear 390 psi.

Narration transcript

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The text of the narrated walkthrough, step by step.

  1. Welcome to a demo of Predictika's Validator. An AI sales agent prepares an order for hexagonal aluminum honeycomb core: coating, alloy, cell size, and more. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the published core tables and returns a verdict, every reason and the figures it looked up.
  2. I will start with the first request by the agent.
  3. The agent says. Please quote CR III 5052 hexagonal aluminum honeycomb, 1/4 in cells, 4.3 pcf, 0.625 in thick, in a 48 in. x 60 in. block. It is ready to send. The rest of the request is on screen.
  4. Before it goes out, the agent calls the validator.
  5. Blocked, with three findings, all in one answer. The order requires a stabilized compressive strength of at least 450 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 370 psi. The order requires an L-direction plate shear strength of at least 320 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 265 psi. The order requires a W-direction plate shear strength of at least 185 psi, but the published minimum for this core is 155 psi.
  6. The validator returned three blocking findings in one answer. A check that reads one field at a time would pass most of this; it shows only when the choices in the quote are checked against each other.
  7. What this shows: for required strengths against the guaranteed minimum for the chosen core, a rules-based CPQ can do this only with workarounds.
  8. Now the agent resubmits.
  9. The corrected request. It changes the alloy to 5056.
  10. It calls the validator again.
  11. This time the validator clears it.
  12. All three earlier findings are cleared.
  13. Three problems caught in one call, fixed in one pass, and a clean quote. That is the value of Predictika's validator: catching mistakes before they reach the customer.