Predictika · Extruded aluminum profile specifications

An AI sales agent's extruded profile specification, checked before it goes out

An AI sales agent prepares a specification for extruded aluminum profiles in Hydro Extrusions alloys, tempers, finishes and low-carbon brands. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the published data sheets and returns a verdict, every reason and the guaranteed values it found.

Scope: Hydro Extrusions profiles in EN AW-6060, 6063, 6005A and 6082 with tempers T4 to T66, open or hollow sections, three finishes and the REDUXA and CIRCAL brands. See everything this validator covers

This validator models Hydro Extrusions profile specifications, not just the scenarios shown below.

  • Alloys, tempers and walls — the guaranteed yield strength, tensile strength and elongation from the Hydro data sheets for each alloy, temper, profile type and wall thickness band, including the Hydro special variants of 6082.
  • Customer requirements — the strength and elongation the application needs, the minimum yield strength the quote states, bending after extrusion, and the finish (mill, decorative anodized or powder coated).
  • Low-carbon brands — REDUXA and CIRCAL 75R and 100R, with the carbon footprint cap the customer sets.

Any Hydro Extrusions profile specification that touches these rules is in scope — not only the scenarios pictured here. Not covered: prices, other alloys, tolerances, and the Wicona and Technal building systems. The guaranteed strength values and brand footprints come from public Hydro documents; the rules about decorative anodizing, bending tempers, the CIRCAL alloy and the carbon cap are modeled, not published by Hydro.

The AI sales agentBuilds the profile specification from the conversation and says it is ready.
Predictika validatorChecks every rule at once and returns the verdict, each finding, and the computed figures.

6 scenarios in 3 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch

What the agent proposes

The AI sales agent says

Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.

Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)

Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run

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Where rules-based CPQ gets it wrong
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Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.

    
What the validator caughtTypical rules-based CPQPredictika
Strength that depends on alloy, temper, profile and wallOnly with care
The guaranteed values form a table by alloy, temper, profile type and wall band, and each band needs its own rule, kept in step with every data sheet.		The alloy, temper, profile and wall are fields of one request and are looked up in the table on every call.
A finish that suits only some alloysOnly with care
Decorative anodizing depends on the alloy grade, so a rule has to sit beside every alloy and be revised when the grading changes.		The alloy and the finish are in one request and checked against the grading on every call.
Brands that apply to one alloy only, with a carbon capOnly with care
The alloy rule and the footprint comparison are separate rules for each brand.		The brand, the alloy and the cap are in one request and compared together on every call.
A stated strength that must not exceed the guaranteeOnly with workarounds
The guaranteed value is looked up from several fields, so a separate rule is needed to recompute it and compare it with the stated figure.		The stated strength is a field of the request and is compared with the guaranteed value on every call.
Every problem returned in one answerOnly with workarounds
Rules tend to fire as a quote is saved or a step is completed, so a rep often fixes one error and meets the next.		All findings come back together, whatever order the choices arrived in.

  

  

    
What this validator catches: findings from its test cases
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Every rule is checked on every call, in any order the choices arrive; one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.

    
1The application needs Rp0,2 of 110 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 100 MPa.
2The application needs Rp0,2 of 165 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 160 MPa.
3The application needs Rm of 200 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 195 MPa.
4The Hydro data sheet has no values for this alloy, temper and profile type at a wall thickness of 26 mm.
5The Hydro data sheet has no values for this alloy, temper and profile type at a wall thickness of 3 mm.
6The Hydro data sheet has no values for this alloy, temper and profile type at a wall thickness of 12 mm.
7This alloy is graded only 3 of 5 for decorative anodising; a person should confirm the finish quality with the customer.
8This alloy is graded 2 of 5 for decorative anodising, which is too low for a decorative anodised finish.
9This temper is a Hydro special variant on the data sheet; a person should confirm availability with the local Hydro supplier.
10The Hydro data sheet has no values for this alloy, temper and profile type at a wall thickness of 6 mm.
11The application needs Rp0,2 of 180 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 170 MPa.
12The application needs Rm of 220 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 215 MPa.
13The application needs elongation of 10 percent; the data sheet guarantees 8 percent.
14The quote states a minimum Rp0,2 of 190 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 170 MPa.
15Bending after extrusion needs temper T4 or T64 (bending quality); the quote has a different temper.
16Hydro CIRCAL 75R and 100R are offered to the 6060 specification only; the quote has another alloy.
17The application needs Rm of 300 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 290 MPa.
18The customer sets a carbon footprint cap but standard metal has no stated footprint; quote a REDUXA or CIRCAL brand.
19The customer allows 23 tenths of a kg CO2 per kg of aluminium; this brand states up to 40.
20The Hydro data sheet has no values for this alloy, temper and profile type at a wall thickness of 30 mm.
21The application needs Rp0,2 of 230 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 215 MPa.
22The quote states a minimum Rp0,2 of 230 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 215 MPa.

  

  

    
Scenarios and results
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The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.

    
1. Strength, bending and carbon cap: A 3 mm EN AW-6060 T6 profile that must be bent, needing more strength than the data sheet guarantees, in REDUXA with a carbon cap

    
The agent's request. Please specify an EN AW-6060 T6 open profile with a 3 mm wall, needing a yield strength of 160 MPa, a tensile strength of 185 MPa and elongation of 8 percent, with a mill finish, to be bent after extrusion, in REDUXA, with a carbon cap of 2.3 kg CO2 per kg of aluminum, and a stated minimum yield strength of 160 MPa. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Yield strength requirement not met. The application needs Rp0,2 of 160 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 150 MPa.
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  • Stated yield strength above the data sheet. The quote states a minimum Rp0,2 of 160 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 150 MPa.
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  • Bending after extrusion needs a bending temper. Bending after extrusion needs temper T4 or T64 (bending quality); the quote has a different temper.
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  • Brand footprint above the customer cap. The customer allows 23 tenths of a kg CO2 per kg of aluminium; this brand states up to 40.
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2. Strength, bending and carbon cap: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please specify an EN AW-6060 T64 open profile with a 3 mm wall, needing a yield strength of 120 MPa, a tensile strength of 170 MPa and elongation of 10 percent, with a mill finish, to be bent after extrusion, in CIRCAL 75R, with a carbon cap of 2.3 kg CO2 per kg of aluminum, and a stated minimum yield strength of 120 MPa. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Specification summary. Wall 3 mm; the data sheet guarantees Rp0,2 120 MPa, Rm 180 MPa and elongation 12 percent.
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3. Strength and finish: A hollow EN AW-6005A T6 profile with a 4 mm wall and a decorative anodized finish

    
The agent's request. Please specify an EN AW-6005A T6 hollow profile with a 4 mm wall, needing a yield strength of 230 MPa, a tensile strength of 250 MPa and elongation of 8 percent, with a decorative anodized finish, in standard metal, and a stated minimum yield strength of 230 MPa. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Yield strength requirement not met. The application needs Rp0,2 of 230 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 215 MPa.
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  • Stated yield strength above the data sheet. The quote states a minimum Rp0,2 of 230 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 215 MPa.
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  • Marginal decorative anodising. This alloy is graded only 3 of 5 for decorative anodising; a person should confirm the finish quality with the customer.
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4. Strength and finish: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please specify an EN AW-6005A T6 hollow profile with a 4 mm wall, needing a yield strength of 215 MPa, a tensile strength of 250 MPa and elongation of 8 percent, with a powder coated finish, in standard metal, and a stated minimum yield strength of 215 MPa. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Specification summary. Wall 4 mm; the data sheet guarantees Rp0,2 215 MPa, Rm 255 MPa and elongation 8 percent.
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5. Alloy, brand and bending: A 20 mm wall EN AW-6063 T6 profile to be bent, in CIRCAL 75R with a carbon cap

    
The agent's request. Please specify an EN AW-6063 T6 open profile with a 20 mm wall, needing a yield strength of 150 MPa, a tensile strength of 190 MPa and elongation of 8 percent, with a mill finish, to be bent after extrusion, in CIRCAL 75R, with a carbon cap of 2.0 kg CO2 per kg of aluminum. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Bending after extrusion needs a bending temper. Bending after extrusion needs temper T4 or T64 (bending quality); the quote has a different temper.
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  • CIRCAL 75R and 100R are made to the 6060 specification. Hydro CIRCAL 75R and 100R are offered to the 6060 specification only; the quote has another alloy.
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  • Brand footprint above the customer cap. The customer allows 20 tenths of a kg CO2 per kg of aluminium; this brand states up to 23.
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6. Alloy, brand and bending: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please specify an EN AW-6060 T64 open profile with a 10 mm wall, needing a yield strength of 110 MPa, a tensile strength of 170 MPa and elongation of 10 percent, with a mill finish, to be bent after extrusion, in CIRCAL 75R, with a carbon cap of 2.5 kg CO2 per kg of aluminum. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Specification summary. Wall 10 mm; the data sheet guarantees Rp0,2 120 MPa, Rm 180 MPa and elongation 12 percent.
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Narration transcript
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The text of the narrated walkthrough, step by step.

    
    
      
  1. Welcome to a demo of Predictika's Validator. An AI sales agent prepares a specification for extruded aluminum profiles in Hydro Extrusions alloys, tempers, finishes and low-carbon brands. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the published data sheets and returns a verdict, every reason and the guaranteed values it found.
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  2. I will start with the first request by the agent.
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  3. The agent says. Please specify an EN AW-6060 T6 open profile with a 3 mm wall, needing a yield strength of 160 MPa. It is ready to send. The rest of the request is on screen.
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  4. Before it goes out, the agent calls the validator.
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  5. Blocked, with four findings, all in one answer. The application needs Rp0,2 of 160 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 150 MPa. The quote states a minimum Rp0,2 of 160 MPa; the data sheet guarantees 150 MPa. Bending after extrusion needs temper T4 or T64 (bending quality); the quote has a different temper. The other one is on screen.
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  6. The validator returned four blocking findings in one answer. A check that reads one field at a time would pass most of this; it shows only when the choices in the quote are checked against each other.
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  7. What this shows: for strength that depends on alloy, temper, profile and wall, a rules-based CPQ is error-prone for this.
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  8. Now the agent resubmits.
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  9. The corrected request. It changes the temper to T64, the yield strength needed to 120 MPa, the tensile strength needed to 170 MPa, the elongation needed to 10 percent, the brand to CIRCAL 75R and the minimum yield strength stated on the quote to 120 MPa.
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  10. It calls the validator again.
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  11. This time the validator clears it.
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  12. All four earlier findings are cleared.
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  13. Four problems caught in one call, fixed in one pass, and a clean quote. That is the value of Predictika's validator: catching mistakes before they reach the customer. Now you can try the other scenarios yourself.
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