Predictika · Lighting scheme quotes

An AI sales agent's LED panel lighting quote, checked before it goes out

An AI sales agent prepares a trade quote for a scheme of recessed LED panels: panel codes, mounting, dimming, emergency packs, a lighting level for the room and a discount. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the product codes and design rules and returns a verdict, every reason, a line-item quote and the figures it computed.

Scope: quotes for Luceco LuxPanel Extra LED panels (600x600, 1200x600 and 1200x300 mm, standard and IP65, fixed-output and digital dimmable drivers), with surface mounting frames and Remote Emergency Packs. See everything this validator covers

This validator models LuxPanel Extra lighting scheme quotes, not just the scenarios shown below.

  • Panel codes — the 25 published LuxPanel Extra codes: which lumen outputs exist for each size, protection (standard or IP65) and driver (fixed-output or digital dimmable), with the wattage of each. A combination that is not a published code is blocked. Two panel lines can be mixed in one scheme.
  • Mounting and accessories — the panels are recessed in 15 mm or 24 mm exposed ceiling grids; other ceilings need surface mounting frames, one for each luminaire. Remote Emergency Packs (standard, self-test and DALI addressable) are added for emergency lighting.
  • Design and price checks* — wet areas need IP65, a dimmable scheme needs dimmable drivers, the lumens must reach the target lux for the room area, escape routes need self-test or DALI packs for at least one luminaire in three, and the line-item trade price, discount, carriage and total are compared with the total the agent states.

Any LuxPanel Extra scheme that touches these rules is in scope — not only the scenarios pictured here. Not covered: other Luceco ranges (downlights, bulkheads, exterior, EV chargers), lighting calculations beyond the simple lumen check, VAT and project-specific trade terms. * Prices and the design and emergency rules are typical for this kind of product, not published by Luceco: see the fine print at the end of the page.

The AI sales agentBuilds the lighting quote from the conversation and says it is ready.
Predictika validatorChecks every rule at once and returns the verdict, each finding, the line-item quote and the computed figures.

7 scenarios in 3 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch

What the agent proposes

The AI sales agent says

Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.

Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)

Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run

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Where rules-based CPQ gets it wrong
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Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.

    
What the validator caughtTypical rules-based CPQPredictika
Panel codes where only some size, protection, driver and lumen combinations existOnly with workarounds
Each published code is a row in a table; a CPQ needs a compatibility table or a rule per code, and a rep can still pick a lumen output that does not exist for that size.		The combination is looked up against the published codes on every call, together with the other lines.
Dimming, wet-area and emergency rules that cut across linesOnly with workarounds
Each rule reads a choice made on another line (driver type, protection, room type, pack type, pack count), so they are cross-line rules that interact with each other.		Every choice is in one request, so a conflict is found whichever order the choices arrive in.
A lighting level that depends on quantity, lumens and room areaOnly with care
A calculation across lines compared with a target; it can be built, but someone has to write and maintain it.		Lumens are totaled across both lines and compared with the room target on every call.
Stated totals that must equal the line itemsOnly with care
A stated figure is a free-entry field; a rule can compare it with a computed total, but someone has to write and maintain that comparison.		The stated total travels with the quote and is compared with the computed total on every call.
Every problem returned in one answerOnly with workarounds
Rules tend to fire as the quote is saved or a step is completed, so a rep often fixes one error and meets the next.		All findings come back together, whatever order the choices arrived in.

  

  

    
What this validator catches: findings from its test cases
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Every rule is checked on every call, in any order the choices arrive; one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.

    
1The scheme has 0 luminaires on line A; at least 1 is needed.
20 lumens on the quote do not reach the target of 300 lux over 300 square meters.
3Line A asks for a size, protection and 3,000 lumen output that do not exist together as a LuxPanel Extra code.
4Line B asks for a size, protection and 3,500 lumen output that do not exist together as a LuxPanel Extra code.
5LuxPanel Extra is a recessed panel for 15 mm or 24 mm exposed ceiling grids; a plasterboard ceiling needs a surface-mounted installation with surface mounting frames.
6Surface mounting needs a surface mounting frame for each of the 80 luminaires; the quote has 79 frames.
7The quote has 10 surface mounting frames but the luminaires are recessed in a ceiling grid.
8A wet area needs the IP65 versions; at least one line is a standard IP20 panel.
9The scheme must be dimmable but at least one line has a fixed-output driver.
10An escape route needs emergency lighting; no emergency pack is selected.
11An escape route needs a self-test or DALI addressable emergency pack; the standard pack is selected.
1226 emergency packs cover fewer than one luminaire in three of the 80 luminaires.
13The quote has 5 emergency packs but no pack type is selected.
14The DALI addressable emergency pack is quoted with digital dimmable drivers; at least one line has a fixed-output driver.
15A discount of 16 percent is above 15 percent; a sales manager should approve it.
16A discount of 31 percent is above the 30 percent maximum for a quote.
17A scheme of 501 luminaires is a project order; trade pricing should be confirmed by the sales desk.
18The quote states a total of £4,635; the line items give £4,636.

  

  

    
Scenarios and results
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The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.

    
1. Office refit: Office scheme on a plasterboard ceiling with a lumen output that is not a published code

    
The agent's request. Please quote a LuxPanel Extra scheme for an office of 700 square meters at 300 lux, on a plasterboard ceiling, with 120 x LuxPanel Extra 600x600 mm, digital dimmable driver, 3,000 lm and 40 x LuxPanel Extra 1200x600 mm, digital dimmable driver, 5,000 lm. The scheme must be dimmable. The discount is 6 percent. The quote states a total of £8,159.20 ex VAT. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Line A is not a published LuxPanel Extra code. Line A asks for a size, protection and 3,000 lumen output that do not exist together as a LuxPanel Extra code.
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  • Recessed panels need an exposed grid ceiling. LuxPanel Extra is a recessed panel for 15 mm or 24 mm exposed ceiling grids; a plasterboard ceiling needs a surface-mounted installation with surface mounting frames.
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2. Office refit: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please quote a LuxPanel Extra scheme for an office of 700 square meters at 300 lux, on a surface-mounted installation, with 120 x LuxPanel Extra 600x600 mm, digital dimmable driver, 3,500 lm and 40 x LuxPanel Extra 1200x600 mm, digital dimmable driver, 5,000 lm, 160 surface mounting frames. The scheme must be dimmable. The discount is 6 percent. The quote states a total of £11,280 ex VAT. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Order summary. 160 luminaires giving 620,000 lumens with a connected load of 3920 W, estimated total of £11,280 ex VAT.
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3. Wet-area scheme: Wet-area scheme with standard panels, a fixed-output line and a total that is too high

    
The agent's request. Please quote a LuxPanel Extra scheme for a wet area of 600 square meters at 200 lux, recessed in a 24 mm exposed ceiling grid, with 150 x LuxPanel Extra 1200x300 mm, fixed-output driver, 2,800 lm and 30 x LuxPanel Extra 600x600 mm, digital dimmable driver, 3,500 lm. The scheme must be dimmable. The discount is 22 percent. The quote states a total of £6,234 ex VAT. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Wet areas need IP65 panels. A wet area needs the IP65 versions; at least one line is a standard IP20 panel.
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  • Dimming needs a digital dimmable driver. The scheme must be dimmable but at least one line has a fixed-output driver.
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  • Stated total does not match. The quote states a total of £6,234; the line items give £6,084.
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  • Discount needs approval. A discount of 22 percent is above 15 percent; a sales manager should approve it.
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4. Wet-area scheme: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please quote a LuxPanel Extra scheme for a wet area of 600 square meters at 200 lux, recessed in a 24 mm exposed ceiling grid, with 150 x LuxPanel Extra 1200x300 mm IP65, digital dimmable driver, 2,800 lm and 30 x LuxPanel Extra 600x600 mm IP65, digital dimmable driver, 3,500 lm. The scheme must be dimmable. The discount is 22 percent. The quote states a total of £11,372.40 ex VAT. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Needs approval.

    
    
      
  • Discount needs approval. A discount of 22 percent is above 15 percent; a sales manager should approve it.
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  • Order summary. 180 luminaires giving 525,000 lumens with a connected load of 4110 W, estimated total of £11,372.40 ex VAT.
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5. Wet-area scheme: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please quote a LuxPanel Extra scheme for a wet area of 600 square meters at 200 lux, recessed in a 24 mm exposed ceiling grid, with 150 x LuxPanel Extra 1200x300 mm IP65, digital dimmable driver, 2,800 lm and 30 x LuxPanel Extra 600x600 mm IP65, digital dimmable driver, 3,500 lm. The scheme must be dimmable. The discount is 12 percent. The quote states a total of £12,830.40 ex VAT. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Order summary. 180 luminaires giving 525,000 lumens with a connected load of 4110 W, estimated total of £12,830.40 ex VAT.
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6. Escape-route scheme: Escape-route scheme with standard emergency packs and too few of them

    
The agent's request. Please quote a LuxPanel Extra scheme for an escape route of 400 square meters at 200 lux, recessed in a 15 mm exposed ceiling grid, with 90 x LuxPanel Extra 600x600 mm, fixed-output driver, 3,500 lm and 30 x LuxPanel Extra 1200x300 mm, fixed-output driver, 2,000 lm, 30 standard Remote Emergency Packs. The discount is 8 percent. The quote states a total of £5,630.40 ex VAT. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Blocked.

    
    
      
  • Escape route needs a self-test pack. An escape route needs a self-test or DALI addressable emergency pack; the standard pack is selected.
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  • Not enough emergency packs. 30 emergency packs cover fewer than one luminaire in three of the 120 luminaires.
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7. Escape-route scheme: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

    
The agent's request. Please quote a LuxPanel Extra scheme for an escape route of 400 square meters at 200 lux, recessed in a 15 mm exposed ceiling grid, with 90 x LuxPanel Extra 600x600 mm, fixed-output driver, 3,500 lm and 30 x LuxPanel Extra 1200x300 mm, fixed-output driver, 2,000 lm, 40 self-test Remote Emergency Packs. The discount is 8 percent. The quote states a total of £6,274.40 ex VAT. It is ready to send.

    
Verdict: Allowed.

    
    
      
  • Order summary. 120 luminaires giving 375,000 lumens with a connected load of 2355 W, estimated total of £6,274.40 ex VAT.
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Narration transcript
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The text of the narrated walkthrough, step by step.

    
    
      
  1. Welcome to a demo of Predictika's Validator. An AI sales agent prepares a trade quote for a scheme of recessed LED panels: panel codes, mounting, dimming, and more. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the product codes and design rules and returns a verdict, every reason, a line-item quote and the figures it computed.
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  2. I will start with the first request by the agent.
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  3. The agent says. Please quote a LuxPanel Extra scheme for an office of 700 square meters at 300 lux, on a plasterboard ceiling. The scheme must be dimmable. The rest of the request is on screen. The quote states a total of £8,159.20 ex VAT.
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  4. Before it goes out, the agent calls the validator.
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  5. Blocked, with two findings, all in one answer. Line A asks for a size, protection and 3,000 lumen output that do not exist together as a LuxPanel Extra code. LuxPanel Extra is a recessed panel for 15 mm or 24 mm exposed ceiling grids; a plasterboard ceiling needs a surface-mounted installation with surface mounting frames.
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  6. The validator returned two blocking findings in one answer. A check that reads one field at a time would pass most of this; it shows only when the choices in the quote are checked against each other.
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  7. What this shows: for panel codes where only some size, protection, driver and lumen combinations exist, a rules-based CPQ can do this only with workarounds.
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  8. Now the agent resubmits.
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  9. The corrected request. It changes the mounting to surface mounted, the Line A to 120 x LuxPanel Extra 600x600 mm, digital dimmable driver, 3,500 lm and the stated total to £11,280. It sets the surface mounting frames to 160.
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  10. It calls the validator again.
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  11. This time the validator clears it.
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  12. The validator also returns the line-item quote. It starts with LBX66WHD40 and LBX612WD40; the other two lines are on screen.
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  13. Both earlier findings are cleared, and the validator's total, £11,280, matches the quote.
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  14. Two problems caught in one call, fixed in one pass, and a clean £11,280 quote. That is the value of Predictika's validator: catching mistakes before they reach the customer. Now you can try the other scenarios yourself.
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