Predictika · Passenger lift quotes

An AI sales agent's Orona Next lift quote, checked before it goes out

An AI sales agent prepares a quote for an Orona Next passenger lift with the range, the load, the persons it carries, the speed, the travel, the floors served and the clear door opening. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the figures Orona publishes in its public catalogue and returns a verdict, every reason and the figures it computed.

Scope: Orona Next passenger lifts (Essentia, Smart, Smart+, Rise): load, persons, speed, travel, floors served, clear door opening and the single-phase option. See everything this validator covers

This validator models quotes for the four Orona Next ranges using the loads, speeds and limits listed in the public catalogue, not just the scenarios shown below.

  • Load, persons and speed — each range lists specific loads (for example 320 to 630 kg on Essentia, 630 and 1,600 kg on Rise) with their person capacity, and specific speeds; a load or speed outside the list, or a stated person count that differs, is blocked.
  • Travel and floors — each range has a listed maximum (Essentia 40 m and 14 floors, Rise 130 m and 64 floors). Where the catalogue gives a range of values (Smart 50 to 60 m and 16 to 21 floors, Smart+ 50 to 75 m), the lower figure is allowed, the upper figure needs a person to confirm, and anything above is blocked.
  • Door opening and supply — the clear door openings listed for each range, and the single-phase option listed only for Essentia up to 450 kg at 0.6 m/s and 25 m of travel.

Any Orona Next quote that touches these rules is in scope — not only the scenarios pictured here. Not covered: pit depth, headroom, car dimensions, machine-room options, finishes, other Orona product families, maintenance and pricing. No prices are modeled; this page produces no price build-up.

The AI sales agentBuilds the lift quote from the conversation and says it is ready.
Predictika validatorChecks every rule at once and returns the verdict, each finding, and the computed figures.

7 scenarios in 3 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch

What the agent proposes

The AI sales agent says

Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.

Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)

Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run

Predictika validator


      
Waiting for the call.

Where rules-based CPQ gets it wrong

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Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.

What the validator caughtTypical rules-based CPQPredictika
Travel or floors in the range Orona says to confirmOnly with care
The catalogue gives a range, so one limit has to be split into a safe value and a to-be-confirmed value, with its own rule for each range.
Both figures are in the model: up to the lower figure passes, between the two needs a person, above the upper is blocked.
A single-phase option with its own load, speed and travel limitsOnly with workarounds
The option changes several limits at once, so the rules for load, speed and travel have to be made conditional on the supply.
The supply is one field in the request and every dependent limit is checked on each call.
Every problem returned in one answerOnly with workarounds
Rules tend to fire as the quote is saved or a step is completed, so a rep often fixes one error and meets the next.
All findings come back together, whatever order the choices arrived in.

What this validator catches: findings from its test cases

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Every rule is checked on every call, in any order the choices arrive; one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.

1The quote has a load of 1,000 kg, which is not one of the loads Orona lists for the selected range.
2Orona lists a single-phase supply only for Orona Next Essentia at loads up to 450 kg.
3The quote has a speed of 1.0 m/s, which Orona does not list for the selected range and supply.
4The quote has a travel of 26 m; the most Orona lists for the selected range is 25 m.
5The quote has a travel of 41 m; the most Orona lists for the selected range is 40 m.
6The quote serves 15 floors; the most Orona lists for the selected range is 14.
7The quote has a speed of 1.6 m/s, which Orona does not list for the selected range and supply.
8A clear door opening of 1,000 mm is not one of the openings Orona lists for the selected range.
9The quote has a load of 2,500 kg, which is not one of the loads Orona lists for the selected range.
10A travel of 55 m is above 50 m, the lower figure in the range Orona lists for this product; Orona or a person must confirm the limit for this load and speed.
11A travel of 60 m is above 50 m, the lower figure in the range Orona lists for this product; Orona or a person must confirm the limit for this load and speed.
12The quote has a travel of 61 m; the most Orona lists for the selected range is 60 m.

Scenarios and results

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The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.

1. Essentia on single phase: An Orona Next Essentia quote on a single-phase supply for 630 kg and 30 m of travel

The agent's request. Please quote an Orona Next Essentia passenger lift (single-phase supply) for a load of 630 kg at 1.0 m/s, with 30 m of travel, 10 floors served and a clear door opening of 900 mm. The quote states 8 persons. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Speed not offered for the range. The quote has a speed of 1.0 m/s, which Orona does not list for the selected range and supply.
  • Single-phase option limits. Orona lists a single-phase supply only for Orona Next Essentia at loads up to 450 kg.
  • Travel above the maximum. The quote has a travel of 30 m; the most Orona lists for the selected range is 25 m.

2. Essentia on single phase: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote an Orona Next Essentia passenger lift (three-phase supply) for a load of 630 kg at 1.0 m/s, with 30 m of travel, 10 floors served and a clear door opening of 900 mm. The quote states 8 persons. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Lift summary. 630 kg for 8 persons at 1.0 m/s, 30 m of travel and 10 floors; Orona lists up to 40 m of travel and 14 floors for the selected range.

3. Smart+ load, speed and travel: An Orona Next Smart+ quote for 1,600 kg at 2 m/s over 60 m

The agent's request. Please quote an Orona Next Smart+ passenger lift (three-phase supply) for a load of 1,600 kg at 2.0 m/s, with 60 m of travel, 20 floors served and a clear door opening of 1,000 mm. The quote states 21 persons. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Load not offered for the range. The quote has a load of 1,600 kg, which is not one of the loads Orona lists for the selected range.
  • Speed not offered for the range. The quote has a speed of 2.0 m/s, which Orona does not list for the selected range and supply.
  • Travel in the range Orona must confirm. A travel of 60 m is above 50 m, the lower figure in the range Orona lists for this product; Orona or a person must confirm the limit for this load and speed.

4. Smart+ load, speed and travel: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote an Orona Next Smart+ passenger lift (three-phase supply) for a load of 1,000 kg at 1.6 m/s, with 60 m of travel, 20 floors served and a clear door opening of 1,000 mm. The quote states 13 persons. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Needs approval.

  • Travel in the range Orona must confirm. A travel of 60 m is above 50 m, the lower figure in the range Orona lists for this product; Orona or a person must confirm the limit for this load and speed.
  • Lift summary. 1,000 kg for 13 persons at 1.6 m/s, 60 m of travel and 20 floors; Orona lists up to 75 m of travel and 32 floors for the selected range.

5. Smart+ load, speed and travel: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote an Orona Next Smart+ passenger lift (three-phase supply) for a load of 1,000 kg at 1.6 m/s, with 50 m of travel, 20 floors served and a clear door opening of 1,000 mm. The quote states 13 persons. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Lift summary. 1,000 kg for 13 persons at 1.6 m/s, 50 m of travel and 20 floors; Orona lists up to 75 m of travel and 32 floors for the selected range.

6. Rise tower limits: An Orona Next Rise quote for a tower with 140 m of travel, 70 floors and 1,300 mm doors

The agent's request. Please quote an Orona Next Rise passenger lift (three-phase supply) for a load of 1,600 kg at 1.75 m/s, with 140 m of travel, 70 floors served and a clear door opening of 1,300 mm. The quote states 21 persons. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Travel above the maximum. The quote has a travel of 140 m; the most Orona lists for the selected range is 130 m.
  • Floors served above the maximum. The quote serves 70 floors; the most Orona lists for the selected range is 64.
  • Clear door opening not offered. A clear door opening of 1,300 mm is not one of the openings Orona lists for the selected range.

7. Rise tower limits: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote an Orona Next Rise passenger lift (three-phase supply) for a load of 1,600 kg at 1.75 m/s, with 120 m of travel, 60 floors served and a clear door opening of 1,200 mm. The quote states 21 persons. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Lift summary. 1,600 kg for 21 persons at 1.75 m/s, 120 m of travel and 60 floors; Orona lists up to 130 m of travel and 64 floors for the selected range.

Narration transcript

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The text of the narrated walkthrough, step by step.

  1. Welcome to a demo of Predictika's Validator. An AI sales agent prepares a quote for an Orona Next passenger lift with the range, the load, the persons it carries. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of the figures Orona publishes in its public catalogue and returns a verdict, every reason and the figures it computed.
  2. I will start with the first request by the agent.
  3. The agent says. Please quote an Orona Next Essentia passenger lift (single-phase supply) for a load of 630 kg at 1.0 m/s, with 30 m of travel. The quote states 8 persons. The rest of the request is on screen.
  4. Before it goes out, the agent calls the validator.
  5. Blocked, with three findings, all in one answer. The quote has a speed of 1.0 m/s, which Orona does not list for the selected range and supply. Orona lists a single-phase supply only for Orona Next Essentia at loads up to 450 kg. The quote has a travel of 30 m; the most Orona lists for the selected range is 25 m.
  6. The validator returned three blocking findings in one answer. A check that reads one field at a time would pass most of this; it shows only when the choices in the quote are checked against each other.
  7. What this shows: for a single-phase option with its own load, speed and travel limits, a rules-based CPQ can do this only with workarounds.
  8. Now the agent resubmits.
  9. The corrected request. It changes the supply to three-phase.
  10. It calls the validator again.
  11. This time the validator clears it.
  12. All three earlier findings are cleared.
  13. Three problems caught in one call, fixed in one pass, and a clean quote. That is the value of Predictika's validator: catching mistakes before they reach the customer. Now you can try the other scenarios yourself.