Predictika · Sheet-metal machinery

An AI sales agent's laser and punch-laser machine quote, checked before it goes out

An AI sales agent prepares a quote for sheet-metal fabrication machines: a 2D fiber laser or a punch-laser Combi machine, its laser power, loading and storage automation, and software options. Before the quote goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of Prima Power's public product pages and returns a verdict, every reason and the total it computed.

Scope: Prima Power Laser Genius+ and Platino Linear 2D lasers, Combi Genius and Combi Sharp punch-laser machines, their automation (Compact Server, third pallet station, PSR 2D, Combo Tower, Night Train FMS and more), the EBe Express Bender connection and software options. See everything this validator covers

This validator models a quote for a sheet-metal machine cell built from the Prima Power products below, based on Prima Power's public machine and automation pages. It handles any quote for these products, not just the scenarios shown. Where a rule is Prima Power's published one it says so; limits that are only typical are labelled that way.

  • 2D fiber lasers — Laser Genius+ (1530, 2040 and 2060; 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 or 15 kW; working areas 3,100 by 1,550, 4,200 by 2,100 and 6,200 by 2,100 mm; maximum workpiece weight 1,150, 2,000 and 3,050 kg) and Platino Linear (1530 and 2040; 4, 6 or 8 kW; working areas 3,048 by 1,524 and 4,064 by 2,032 mm).
  • Punch-laser Combi machines — Combi Genius (CG1530 and CG1540, Pure or Dynamic, 3, 4 or 6 kW laser, sheets up to 3,000 by 1,500 and 4,300 by 1,500 mm) and Combi Sharp (CS1225, 3 or 4 kW laser, sheets up to 2,500 by 1,250 mm and 200 kg); 8 mm maximum thickness on both.
  • Automation for the 2D lasers — Compact Server (single sheets up to 3 mm), third pallet station, PSR 2D picking and stacking robot (which picks at the third pallet), Combo Tower Laser and Night Train FMS.
  • Automation for the Combi machines — Compact Express, LD, LSR and LST loaders (LSR and LD on the Combi Genius only), UDC unloading, sorting units, Combo Tower, Fast Loading storage, Night Train FMS and, on the Combi Genius, the direct connection to the EBe Express Bender (mild steel to 3.2 mm, stainless steel to 2.5 mm, aluminum to 4 mm).
  • Software and options — NC Express programming, Tulus Analytics reporting, Optia scrap recovery and the ECO-TOUCH Cut and Gas Mixer gas-saving options (the last two for the 2D lasers).
  • Typical limits (not published by Prima Power) — every price on this page, the maximum thickness each laser power cuts in the 2D lasers, a 15 percent discount limit, manager approval above 8 percent and for orders of three machines or more, and the rule that unattended production needs automatic loading.

Any quote for these products that touches these rules is in scope — not only the scenarios pictured here. Not covered: press brakes, other panel benders, punching and punch-shear machines, 3D lasers, Laserdyne machines, installation beyond a flat training and start-up allowance, freight and sizes beyond the product pages. The customers are fictional.

The AI sales agentBuilds the machine quote from the conversation and says it is ready.
Predictika validatorChecks every rule at once and returns the verdict, each finding, and the computed figures.

7 scenarios in 3 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch

What the agent proposes

The AI sales agent says

Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.

Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)

Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run

Predictika validator


      
Waiting for the call.

Where rules-based CPQ gets it wrong

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Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.

What the validator caughtTypical rules-based CPQPredictika
Laser powers and sizes that differ by machineOnly with care
The Laser Genius+ offers six laser powers, the Platino Linear three, the Combi Genius three and the Combi Sharp two, and each has its own working area. Each fact is a separate dependency to keep in step with the catalog.
Machine, power and sheet size are checked together on every call.
Maximum thickness that depends on machine, laser power and materialOnly with workarounds
A thickness limit that varies by power and by steel, stainless or aluminum is a table lookup across three fields, with a different fixed limit on the Combi machines. Most quote setups do not carry that matrix.
Thickness is checked against the limit for the chosen machine, power and material.
Automation that exists only for some machine familiesOnly with care
Compact Server and PSR 2D are for the 2D lasers, LSR and LD for the Combi Genius, UDC and sorting units for the Combi machines. Each pairing is its own rule.
Every automation choice is compared with the selected machine.
Limits that cross fields, such as a 3 mm loader and the sheet being cutOnly with workarounds
The Compact Server lifts single sheets up to 3 mm, and the Express Bender bends different maximum thicknesses by material. The limit sits on a different product than the field it constrains.
Loader, bender, thickness and material are checked together.
Guidance that needs a person, such as unattended running with a Compact ServerOnly with workarounds
The guidance is that the Compact Server suits only short unattended periods, not a hard rule. Quote tools tend to either ignore it or block the quote outright.
The quote is not blocked; it goes to a person with the reason listed.
A stated total that has to agree with the machinesOnly with workarounds
Prices come from many places and the total typed on the quote can drift from them without anyone noticing.
The total is computed from the choices and compared with the total the quote states.
Every problem returned in one answerOnly with workarounds
Rules tend to fire as the quote is saved or a step is completed, so a person often fixes one error and meets the next.
All findings come back together, whatever order the choices arrived in.

What this validator catches: findings from its test cases

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Every rule is checked on every call, in any order the choices arrive; one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.

1A laser power of 10 kW is not offered for the selected machine; the Laser Genius+ comes in 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 15 kW, the Platino Linear in 4, 6 and 8 kW, the Combi Genius in 3, 4 and 6 kW and the Combi Sharp in 3 and 4 kW.
2The Pure and Dynamic performance levels exist only on the Combi Genius, and a Combi Genius quote needs one of them.
3A sheet of 4,300 by 2,000 mm is larger than the 4,200 by 2,100 mm working area or maximum sheet size of the selected machine.
4A 23 mm sheet is thicker than the 22 mm that the selected machine and laser power process in this material (the 8 mm limit of the Combi machines is published by Prima Power; the laser thickness limits are typical figures, not published).
5A sheet load of 1200 kg is above the 1150 kg maximum workpiece weight of the selected machine.
6The Compact Server lifts a single sheet of up to 3 mm from the stack; a 5 mm sheet is too thick for it.
7That loading device is not offered for the selected machine; the 2D lasers take the Compact Server, the Combi Genius takes Compact Express, LD, LSR and LST, and the Combi Sharp takes Compact Express and LST.
8That storage system is not offered for the selected machine; the 2D lasers take Combo Tower Laser and Night Train FMS, the Combi machines take Combo Tower, Fast Loading storage and Night Train FMS.
9The third pallet station is an automation option for the 2D lasers (Laser Genius+ and Platino Linear) only.
10The PSR 2D picks parts at the third pallet while the laser keeps cutting, so it needs the third pallet station.
11This quote offers the picking and stacking robot (PSR 2D) for the 2D lasers (Laser Genius+ and Platino Linear) only.
12The Unloading device Compact (UDC) is listed for the Combi machines, not the 2D lasers.
13The sorting units are listed for the Combi machines, not the 2D lasers.
14The direct connection to the EBe Express Bender is listed for the Combi Genius only.
15The EBe Express Bender bends up to 3.2 mm mild steel, 2.5 mm stainless steel and 4 mm aluminum; a 4 mm sheet is outside that.
16Optia sheet-scrap recovery is listed for the 2D lasers only.
17The ECO-TOUCH Cut and Gas Mixer options are listed for the 2D lasers only.
18Unattended production needs automatic loading; the quote has no loading device, storage system or third pallet station.
19The Compact Server suits only short periods of unattended production; a person confirms that this is enough for the unattended running quoted.
20The quote has 0 machines; at least one is needed.
21Orders of 3 machines or more are confirmed by a person before they are sent; this one has 3.
22A discount of $90,120 on a list price of $1,114,000 is more than 8 percent and needs a manager to approve it.
23A discount of $168,100 on a list price of $1,114,000 is more than the 15 percent limit.
24The quote states a total of $537,000, but the machines, options and discount give $557,000.

Scenarios and results

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The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.

1. Enclosure maker punch-laser cell: Two Combi Genius machines connected to the Express Bender

The agent's request. Please quote 2 Combi Genius CG1530 machines at the Dynamic level with a 6 kW fiber laser, cutting 4 mm mild steel sheets of 3,100 by 1,500 mm (146 kg a load). Add the LST loading and stacking robot, the Combo Tower storage, the direct connection to the EBe Express Bender, the Optia scrap recovery and the NC Express programming software. The discount is $304,000. The quote states a total of $3,940,000. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Sheet larger than the machine takes. A sheet of 3,100 by 1,500 mm is larger than the 3,000 by 1,500 mm working area or maximum sheet size of the selected machine.
  • Material too thick for the Express Bender. The EBe Express Bender bends up to 3.2 mm mild steel, 2.5 mm stainless steel and 4 mm aluminum; a 4 mm sheet is outside that.
  • Optia is for the 2D lasers. Optia sheet-scrap recovery is listed for the 2D lasers only.

2. Enclosure maker punch-laser cell: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote 2 Combi Genius CG1530 machines at the Dynamic level with a 6 kW fiber laser, cutting 4 mm mild steel sheets of 3,000 by 1,500 mm (141 kg a load). Add the LST loading and stacking robot, the Combo Tower storage and the NC Express programming software. The discount is $304,000. The quote states a total of $3,070,000. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Needs approval.

  • Discount above 8 percent. A discount of $304,000 on a list price of $3,374,000 is more than 8 percent and needs a manager to approve it.
  • Order summary. 2 machines at $1,687,000 each, list price $3,374,000, net $3,070,000 (illustrative prices, not Prima Power prices).

3. Enclosure maker punch-laser cell: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote 2 Combi Genius CG1530 machines at the Dynamic level with a 6 kW fiber laser, cutting 4 mm mild steel sheets of 3,000 by 1,500 mm (141 kg a load). Add the LST loading and stacking robot, the Combo Tower storage and the NC Express programming software. The discount is $269,000. The quote states a total of $3,105,000. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Order summary. 2 machines at $1,687,000 each, list price $3,374,000, net $3,105,000 (illustrative prices, not Prima Power prices).

4. HVAC parts laser cell: Two-machine laser cell with a Compact Server and picking robot

The agent's request. Please quote 2 Laser Genius+ 2040 machines with a 12 kW fiber laser, cutting 12 mm mild steel sheets of 4,000 by 2,000 mm (760 kg a load). Add the Compact Server, the PSR 2D picking and stacking robot, the NC Express programming software and the ECO-TOUCH Cut and Gas Mixer options. The discount is $140,000. The quote states a total of $1,990,000. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Compact Server only lifts sheets up to 3 mm. The Compact Server lifts a single sheet of up to 3 mm from the stack; a 12 mm sheet is too thick for it.
  • PSR 2D needs the third pallet station. The PSR 2D picks parts at the third pallet while the laser keeps cutting, so it needs the third pallet station.

5. HVAC parts laser cell: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote 2 Laser Genius+ 2040 machines with a 12 kW fiber laser, cutting 12 mm mild steel sheets of 4,000 by 2,000 mm (760 kg a load). Add the Combo Tower Laser storage, the third pallet station, the PSR 2D picking and stacking robot, the NC Express programming software and the ECO-TOUCH Cut and Gas Mixer options. The discount is $140,000. The quote states a total of $2,670,000. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Order summary. 2 machines at $1,405,000 each, list price $2,810,000, net $2,670,000 (illustrative prices, not Prima Power prices).

6. Aluminum job shop: Two Platino Linear lasers for aluminum sheet

The agent's request. Please quote 2 Platino Linear 2040 machines with an 8 kW fiber laser, cutting 5 mm aluminum sheets of 4,000 by 2,000 mm (108 kg a load). Add the Compact Server, the NC Express programming software, the Tulus Analytics reporting and the ECO-TOUCH Cut and Gas Mixer options. The quote states a total of $1,256,000. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Compact Server only lifts sheets up to 3 mm. The Compact Server lifts a single sheet of up to 3 mm from the stack; a 5 mm sheet is too thick for it.
  • Stated total differs from the computed total. The quote states a total of $1,256,000, but the machines, options and discount give $1,294,000.

7. Aluminum job shop: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote 2 Platino Linear 2040 machines with an 8 kW fiber laser, cutting 5 mm aluminum sheets of 4,000 by 2,000 mm (108 kg a load). Add the third pallet station, the NC Express programming software, the Tulus Analytics reporting and the ECO-TOUCH Cut and Gas Mixer options. The quote states a total of $1,314,000. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Order summary. 2 machines at $657,000 each, list price $1,314,000, net $1,314,000 (illustrative prices, not Prima Power prices).

Narration transcript

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The text of the narrated walkthrough, step by step.

  1. Welcome to a demo of Predictika's Validator. An AI sales agent prepares a quote for sheet-metal fabrication machines: a 2D fiber laser or a punch-laser Combi machine, its laser power, loading and storage automation, and more. Before the quote goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of Prima Power's public product pages and returns a verdict, every reason and the total it computed.
  2. I will start with the first request by the agent.
  3. The agent says. Please quote 2 Combi Genius CG1530 machines at the Dynamic level with a 6 kW fiber laser, cutting 4 mm mild steel sheets of 3,100 by 1,500 mm (146 kg a load). Add the LST loading and stacking robot, the Combo Tower storage, the direct connection to the EBe Express Bender, the Optia scrap recovery and the NC Express programming software. The rest of the request is on screen. The quote states a total of $3,940,000.
  4. Before it goes out, the agent calls the validator.
  5. Blocked, with three findings, all in one answer. A sheet of 3,100 by 1,500 mm is larger than the 3,000 by 1,500 mm working area or maximum sheet size of the selected machine. The EBe Express Bender bends up to 3.2 mm mild steel, 2.5 mm stainless steel and 4 mm aluminum; a 4 mm sheet is outside that. Optia sheet-scrap recovery is listed for the 2D lasers only.
  6. The validator returned three blocking findings in one answer. A check that reads one field at a time would pass most of this; it shows only when the choices in the quote are checked against each other.
  7. What this shows: for maximum thickness that depends on machine, laser power and material, a rules-based CPQ can do this only with workarounds.
  8. Now the agent resubmits.
  9. The corrected request. It changes the sheet size to 3,000 by 1,500, the sheet load to 141 kg and the stated total to $3,070,000. It removes the direct connection to the EBe Express Bender and optia scrap recovery.
  10. It calls the validator again.
  11. Not blocked, but held for a person.
  12. The validator also returns the line-item quote. It starts with Combi Genius CG1530 and Dynamic performance level (Pure is the base level); the other five lines are on screen.
  13. The three blocking findings are cleared; one approval remains for a person: discount above 8 percent.
  14. The agent resubmits once more.
  15. The revised request. It changes the discount to $269,000 and the stated total to $3,105,000.
  16. It calls the validator once more.
  17. This time the validator clears it.
  18. The validator also returns the line-item quote. It starts with Combi Genius CG1530 and Dynamic performance level (Pure is the base level); the other five lines are on screen.
  19. The earlier finding is cleared, and the validator's total, $3,105,000, matches the quote.
  20. Three problems caught in one call, fixed in two passes, and a clean $3,105,000 quote. That is the value of Predictika's validator: catching mistakes before they reach the customer. Now you can try the other scenarios yourself.