Predictika · multi-axis drive line-ups: Motor Modules, infeed, safety, lead time, discount and total price
An AI sales agent prepares a SINAMICS S120 drive line-up quote for a fictional machine builder, with the total price it expects. Before the quote goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika’s validator, which checks it against Motor Module current, infeed and DC bus, control, safety, mechanics, lead time and discount rules, compares the total the agent states with the one it computes, and returns a verdict with every reason.
This validator models booksize and chassis S120 Line Modules, single and double Motor Modules, and SIMOTICS servo, main and induction motors, with up to four motor slots per quote. It handles any combination of infeed, Motor Module, motor, control mode, supply voltage, safety, commissioning, cabinet, lead time and discount choices the model supports, not just the scenarios shown below.
It does not cover other Siemens drive families, standalone parts orders, engineering of motor sizing from a load profile, real list prices or contract terms, or any real customer.
8 scenarios in 4 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch
Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.
Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)
Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run
What this means
Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ or Revenue Cloud) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.
| What the validator catches | Typical rules-based CPQ | Predictika |
|---|---|---|
| Motor current checked against the Motor Module on every axis | Only with care Each axis is a separate comparison of a motor property with a module property, and a double module drives two motors at once. | Every axis is checked in the same pass, and the finding comes back with the others. |
| DC bus load against the infeed | Only with workarounds The load is a sum over axes scaled by simultaneity, then compared with the Line Module rating at two thresholds, so it takes a chain of dependent price and validation rules. | The load is computed once and used for the size check and the 90 percent approval. |
| Line Module kind and form factor against the site | Only with care Harmonics, regeneration and voltage each depend on the Line Module chosen, and 690 V needs a different form factor altogether. | Kind, form factor and voltage are checked together, and every miss is returned. |
| Safety option as a prerequisite for encoders and commissioning | Easy A dependency between options is a standard product rule. | The same rule, returned with the other findings. |
| Lead time across several components | Only with care The longest of the Line Module and every motor must be compared with the need date. | Lead time is computed once from the chosen items and compared with the weeks needed. |
| Discount authority that scales with quote size | Only with care Engineer and manager limits that depend on the size of the quote are doable but tend to be hard-coded per tier. | Limits come from the same computed list price, so approval and block follow the quote size. |
| The total price the agent states | Only with workarounds Comparing a stated total with a computed one means a separate rule per quote layout, and price rules rarely run on stated figures. | The stated total is a field in the request and is checked against the computed total. |
| Every problem returned in one answer | Only with workarounds Rules tend to fire as the quote is saved, so a rep often fixes one error and meets the next. | All findings come back together, whatever order the choices arrived in. |
Every rule is checked on every call, in whatever order the choices arrive, and one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.
| Rule | Effect | What it checks |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | block | Each motor must not draw more rated current than its Motor Module delivers |
| 2 | block | Line Module and Motor Modules must share a form factor (booksize with booksize, chassis with chassis) on one DC bus |
| 3 | block | The supply voltage must not exceed the Line Module rating; 690 V needs a chassis line-up |
| 4 | block | DC bus load, the sum of motor power times simultaneity, must not exceed the Line Module rating |
| 5 | approval | A load above 90 percent of the Line Module rating needs drive engineering confirmation |
| 6 | block | A site that requires low line harmonics needs an Active Line Module with Active Interface Module |
| 7 | block | A Basic Line Module cannot feed energy back, so heavy braking duty needs a Braking Module and resistor or a Smart or Active Line Module |
| 8 | block | One CU320-2 Control Unit controls up to 6 axes in servo mode or 4 in vector mode |
| 9 | block | Safety Integrated Extended Functions need an encoder on every axis and the commissioning service with a safety acceptance test |
| 10 | computed | Resolver motors need an SMC Sensor Module per axis, which is priced into the quote |
| 11 | block | A booksize line-up must fit the cabinet width; chassis units must be quoted with S120 Cabinet Modules integration |
| 12 | block | A motor cable over 50 m needs a motor reactor, and 150 m is the maximum |
| 13 | block | Lead time is the longest of the Line Module and the motors, plus the cabinet build, and must fit the weeks the customer needs |
| 14 | approval, then block | Discount authority: a sales engineer can give 10 percent; the maximum is 20 percent, or 30 percent on a quote of EUR 100,000 or more |
| 15 | computed | Total price is hardware and licenses, less discount, plus commissioning per axis |
| 16 | block | The total price the agent states must match the validator total within EUR 1 |
The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.
The agent's request. A drive line-up quote for a machine builder: one Siemens SINAMICS S120 Active Line Module 16 kW booksize with AIM, one Single Motor Module 3 A and one SIMOTICS S-1FK7 063 servo motor on a 400 V supply in servo mode, needed within 10 weeks. Total price €10,190.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Blocked.
The agent's request. A drive line-up quote for a machine builder: one Siemens SINAMICS S120 Active Line Module 16 kW booksize with AIM, one Single Motor Module 5 A and one SIMOTICS S-1FK7 063 servo motor on a 400 V supply in servo mode, needed within 10 weeks. Total price €10,260.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Allowed.
The agent's request. A drive line-up quote for a machine builder: one Siemens SINAMICS S120 Active Line Module 55 kW booksize with AIM, one Single Motor Module 85 A and one encoderless SIMOTICS M-1PH8 164 main motor on a 400 V supply in vector mode, with Safety Integrated Extended Functions, needed within 12 weeks. Total price €27,740.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Blocked.
The agent's request. A drive line-up quote for a machine builder: one Siemens SINAMICS S120 Active Line Module 55 kW booksize with AIM, one Single Motor Module 85 A and one SIMOTICS M-1PH8 164 main motor with encoder on a 400 V supply in vector mode, with Safety Integrated Extended Functions and the commissioning service, needed within 12 weeks. Total price €31,520.00. Ready to send.
Verdict: Allowed.
The agent's request. A drive line-up quote for a press builder: one Siemens SINAMICS S120 Active Line Module 55 kW booksize with AIM, one Single Motor Module 85 A and one SIMOTICS M-1PH8 164 main motor on a 400 V supply in vector mode, needed within 6 weeks, 25 percent discount. Total price €21,337.50. Ready to send.
Verdict: Blocked.
The agent's request. A drive line-up quote for a press builder: one Siemens SINAMICS S120 Active Line Module 55 kW booksize with AIM, one Single Motor Module 85 A and one SIMOTICS M-1PH8 164 main motor on a 400 V supply in vector mode, needed within 12 weeks, 15 percent discount. The sales manager has approved the discount. Total price €24,182.50. Ready to send.
Verdict: Needs approval.
The agent's request. A drive line-up quote for an integrator: one Siemens SINAMICS S120 Active Line Module 36 kW booksize with AIM, two Single Motor Modules 18 A and two SIMOTICS S-1FT7 105 servo motors with resolver feedback on a 400 V supply in servo mode, with Safety Integrated Extended Functions and the commissioning service, 5 percent discount, needed within 10 weeks. Total price €19,529.20. Ready to send.
Verdict: Blocked.
The agent's request. A drive line-up quote for an integrator: one Siemens SINAMICS S120 Active Line Module 36 kW booksize with AIM, two Single Motor Modules 18 A and two SIMOTICS S-1FT7 105 servo motors with resolver feedback on a 400 V supply in servo mode, with Safety Integrated Extended Functions and the commissioning service, 5 percent discount, needed within 10 weeks. Total price €24,411.50. Ready to send.
Verdict: Allowed.
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