Predictika · Packaging machines

An AI sales agent's flow wrapper order, checked before it goes out

An AI sales agent prepares an order for a Pack 403 high-speed horizontal flow wrapper from the public application-information sheet: the size of the product to be wrapped, the crimper, the packs per minute and film speed asked for, the film reel, seal sizes, working height and the site's air and electrical supply. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of that sheet and returns a verdict and every reason.

Scope: Pack 403 horizontal flow wrapper: product size, crimper and speed, film speed, film reel, seal sizes, working height, air and supply. See everything this validator covers

This validator models orders for the Pack 403 as set out in the public Syntegon application-information sheet, not just the scenarios shown below.

  • Product size — products from 40 to 565 mm long, 12 to 120 mm wide and 6 to 90 mm high.
  • Crimper and speed — a listed maximum of 200 packs per minute with a 1-up crimper, 400 with a 2-up and 600 with a 3-up, a film speed of up to 80 m/min, and the maximum the agent states for the crimper must match. 4-up crimper jaws are listed as an option without a published speed, so they go to a person.
  • Film reel, seals and site — reels up to 400 mm in diameter, 35 kg and 265 mm wide; fin seal heights of 6, 9 or 15 mm; cross seal widths of 20 or 25 mm; working heights of 650, 850 or 930 mm; at least 6 bar of compressed air; and a standard supply of 440 to 480 VAC (another supply goes to a person).

Any order for this machine that touches these rules is in scope — not only the scenarios pictured here. Not covered: prices (Syntegon publishes none for this machine, so this validator produces no price build-up or line-item quote), other Syntegon machines (including the Pack 103), the full options list, film type and how film width follows product size, and installation. Assumptions: the listed ranges are treated as hard limits, and a 4-up crimper is treated as needing confirmation because no speed is published for it.

The AI sales agentBuilds the flow wrapper order from the conversation and says it is ready.
Predictika validatorChecks every rule at once and returns the verdict, each finding, and the computed figures.

7 scenarios in 3 groups · each group runs from the agent’s first attempt to the outcome · click one to switch

What the agent proposes

The AI sales agent says

Illustrative agent statement. The validator receives the structured request below.

Proposing agent: AI sales agent (scripted)

Before sending, the agent must call Recorded run

Predictika validator


      
Waiting for the call.

Where rules-based CPQ gets it wrong

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Our assessment of what a typical rules-based CPQ (product rules, price rules and validation rules, as in Salesforce CPQ) does with the same cases. It is a judgment about effort and reliability, not a claim that nothing can be built.

What the validator caughtTypical rules-based CPQPredictika
Several independent size limits on one productOnly with care
Length, width and height limits are separate checks, and a rep who fixes one often meets the next on re-save.
All three are checked together on every call and each is reported.
A speed limit that depends on the crimper chosenOnly with workarounds
The maximum speed changes with the crimper, so each crimper needs its own comparison with the speed asked for.
The maximum is derived from the crimper and compared with the requested speed on every call.
A stated maximum that must match the crimperOnly with workarounds
A figure typed into the order is a free field that has to be compared with a lookup of the crimper.
The stated maximum is part of the request and is compared with the derived one on every call.
Every problem returned in one answer, with approvals kept apart from errorsOnly with workarounds
Rules tend to fire as the order is saved or a step is completed, so errors and approvals arrive piecemeal.
All findings come back together: errors first, then items for a person to confirm.

What this validator catches: findings from its test cases

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Every rule is checked on every call, in any order the choices arrive; one problem never hides another. Blocking findings stop the quote; approval findings need a person to sign off; everything else is computed.

1The product is 39 mm long; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 40 mm to 565 mm long.
2The product is 566 mm long; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 40 mm to 565 mm long.
3The product is 121 mm wide; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 12 mm to 120 mm wide.
4The product is 11 mm wide; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 12 mm to 120 mm wide.
5The product is 91 mm high; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 6 mm to 90 mm high.
6The product is 5 mm high; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 6 mm to 90 mm high.
7The order asks for 201 packs per minute; the listed maximum for the chosen crimper is 200 packs per minute.
8The order asks for 401 packs per minute; the listed maximum for the chosen crimper is 400 packs per minute.
9The order asks for 601 packs per minute; the listed maximum for the chosen crimper is 600 packs per minute.
104-up crimper jaws are listed as an option but no speed is published for them; a person should confirm the rate with Syntegon.
11The order asks for a film speed of 81 m/min; the listed maximum is 80 m/min.
12The film reel is 401 mm in diameter; the listed maximum is 400 mm.
13The film reel weighs 36 kg; the listed maximum is 35 kg.
14The film reel is 266 mm wide; the listed maximum is 265 mm.
15A fin seal height of 12 mm is not offered; the listed heights are 6, 9 and 15 mm.
16A cross seal width of 22 mm is not offered; the listed widths are 20 and 25 mm.
17A working height of 900 mm is not offered; the listed heights are 650, 850 and 930 mm.
18The site has 5 bar of compressed air; the listed minimum is 6 bar (80 psi).
19The site supply is 400 V; the listed standard supply is 440 to 480 VAC, so a person should confirm another supply.
20The order states a maximum of 600 packs per minute for the crimper; the listed maximum is 400 packs per minute.
21The order states a maximum of 400 packs per minute for the crimper; the listed maximum is 600 packs per minute.
22The site supply is 500 V; the listed standard supply is 440 to 480 VAC, so a person should confirm another supply.
23The product is 700 mm long; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 40 mm to 565 mm long.
24The product is 130 mm wide; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 12 mm to 120 mm wide.
25The product is 100 mm high; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 6 mm to 90 mm high.
26The order asks for 500 packs per minute; the listed maximum for the chosen crimper is 400 packs per minute.
27The order asks for a film speed of 90 m/min; the listed maximum is 80 m/min.
28The film reel is 450 mm in diameter; the listed maximum is 400 mm.
29A fin seal height of 10 mm is not offered; the listed heights are 6, 9 and 15 mm.
30The site has 4 bar of compressed air; the listed minimum is 6 bar (80 psi).

Scenarios and results

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The recorded result of the validator for each scenario on this page: the request the AI agent sent, the verdict, and every finding, in the order they appear above.

1. Speed and film speed: 2-up crimper asked for 500 packs per minute at 90 m/min film speed

The agent's request. Please quote a Pack 403 horizontal flow wrapper with a 2-up crimper for a 220 x 80 x 40 mm product at 500 packs per minute and a film speed of 90 m/min. The film reel is 350 mm in diameter, 30 kg and 250 mm wide, with a 9 mm fin seal and a 20 mm cross seal. The working height is 850 mm, and the site has a 460 V supply and 6 bar of compressed air. The order states a crimper maximum of 600 packs per minute. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Speed above the crimper maximum. The order asks for 500 packs per minute; the listed maximum for the chosen crimper is 400 packs per minute.
  • Stated maximum speed does not match. The order states a maximum of 600 packs per minute for the crimper; the listed maximum is 400 packs per minute.
  • Film speed above the maximum. The order asks for a film speed of 90 m/min; the listed maximum is 80 m/min.

2. Speed and film speed: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote a Pack 403 horizontal flow wrapper with a 3-up crimper for a 220 x 80 x 40 mm product at 500 packs per minute and a film speed of 90 m/min. The film reel is 350 mm in diameter, 30 kg and 250 mm wide, with a 9 mm fin seal and a 20 mm cross seal. The working height is 850 mm, and the site has a 460 V supply and 6 bar of compressed air. The order states a crimper maximum of 600 packs per minute. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Film speed above the maximum. The order asks for a film speed of 90 m/min; the listed maximum is 80 m/min.

3. Speed and film speed: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote a Pack 403 horizontal flow wrapper with a 3-up crimper for a 220 x 80 x 40 mm product at 500 packs per minute and a film speed of 70 m/min. The film reel is 350 mm in diameter, 30 kg and 250 mm wide, with a 9 mm fin seal and a 20 mm cross seal. The working height is 850 mm, and the site has a 460 V supply and 6 bar of compressed air. The order states a crimper maximum of 600 packs per minute. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Order summary. 220 x 80 x 40 mm product, 500 packs per minute requested; listed maximum for the crimper is 600 packs per minute.

4. Product size: Product 600 x 130 x 95 mm on a 1-up crimper

The agent's request. Please quote a Pack 403 horizontal flow wrapper with a 1-up crimper for a 600 x 130 x 95 mm product at 150 packs per minute and a film speed of 60 m/min. The film reel is 350 mm in diameter, 30 kg and 250 mm wide, with a 9 mm fin seal and a 20 mm cross seal. The working height is 850 mm, and the site has a 460 V supply and 6 bar of compressed air. The order states a crimper maximum of 200 packs per minute. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Product length outside the range. The product is 600 mm long; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 40 mm to 565 mm long.
  • Product width outside the range. The product is 130 mm wide; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 12 mm to 120 mm wide.
  • Product height outside the range. The product is 95 mm high; the Pack 403 is listed for products from 6 mm to 90 mm high.

5. Product size: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote a Pack 403 horizontal flow wrapper with a 1-up crimper for a 560 x 115 x 85 mm product at 150 packs per minute and a film speed of 60 m/min. The film reel is 350 mm in diameter, 30 kg and 250 mm wide, with a 9 mm fin seal and a 20 mm cross seal. The working height is 850 mm, and the site has a 460 V supply and 6 bar of compressed air. The order states a crimper maximum of 200 packs per minute. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Allowed.

  • Order summary. 560 x 115 x 85 mm product, 150 packs per minute requested; listed maximum for the crimper is 200 packs per minute.

6. Crimper and site: 4-up crimper with 4 bar of air and a 400 V supply

The agent's request. Please quote a Pack 403 horizontal flow wrapper with a 4-up crimper for a 150 x 50 x 25 mm product at 700 packs per minute and a film speed of 60 m/min. The film reel is 350 mm in diameter, 30 kg and 250 mm wide, with a 9 mm fin seal and a 20 mm cross seal. The working height is 850 mm, and the site has a 400 V supply and 4 bar of compressed air. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Blocked.

  • Compressed air pressure too low. The site has 4 bar of compressed air; the listed minimum is 6 bar (80 psi).
  • 4-up crimper speed not published. 4-up crimper jaws are listed as an option but no speed is published for them; a person should confirm the rate with Syntegon.
  • Supply outside the standard range. The site supply is 400 V; the listed standard supply is 440 to 480 VAC, so a person should confirm another supply.

7. Crimper and site: The agent resubmits after fixing the errors

The agent's request. Please quote a Pack 403 horizontal flow wrapper with a 4-up crimper for a 150 x 50 x 25 mm product at 700 packs per minute and a film speed of 60 m/min. The film reel is 350 mm in diameter, 30 kg and 250 mm wide, with a 9 mm fin seal and a 20 mm cross seal. The working height is 850 mm, and the site has a 400 V supply and 6 bar of compressed air. It is ready to send.

Verdict: Needs approval.

  • 4-up crimper speed not published. 4-up crimper jaws are listed as an option but no speed is published for them; a person should confirm the rate with Syntegon.
  • Supply outside the standard range. The site supply is 400 V; the listed standard supply is 440 to 480 VAC, so a person should confirm another supply.
  • Order summary. 150 x 50 x 25 mm product, 700 packs per minute requested on 4-up crimper jaws.

Narration transcript

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The text of the narrated walkthrough, step by step.

  1. Welcome to a demo of Predictika's Validator. An AI sales agent prepares an order for a Pack 403 high-speed horizontal flow wrapper from the public application-information sheet: the size of the product to be wrapped, the crimper, the packs per minute and film speed asked for, and more. Before it goes out, the agent sends it to Predictika, which checks it against a declarative model of that sheet and returns a verdict and every reason.
  2. I will start with the first request by the agent.
  3. The agent says. Please quote a Pack 403 horizontal flow wrapper. The film reel is 350 mm in diameter, 30 kg and 250 mm wide, with a 9 mm fin seal and a 20 mm cross seal. The rest of the request is on screen.
  4. Before it goes out, the agent calls the validator.
  5. Blocked, with three findings, all in one answer. The order asks for 500 packs per minute; the listed maximum for the chosen crimper is 400 packs per minute. The order states a maximum of 600 packs per minute for the crimper; the listed maximum is 400 packs per minute. The order asks for a film speed of 90 m/min; the listed maximum is 80 m/min.
  6. The validator returned three blocking findings in one answer. A check that reads one field at a time would pass most of this; it shows only when the choices in the quote are checked against each other.
  7. What this shows: for a stated maximum that must match the crimper, a rules-based CPQ can do this only with workarounds.
  8. Now the agent resubmits.
  9. The corrected request. It changes the crimper to 3-up.
  10. It calls the validator again.
  11. Still blocked, with one finding, all in one answer. The order asks for a film speed of 90 m/min; the listed maximum is 80 m/min.
  12. Two findings cleared. Still blocking: film speed above the maximum.
  13. The agent resubmits once more.
  14. The revised request. It changes the film speed to 70 m/min.
  15. It calls the validator once more.
  16. This time the validator clears it.
  17. The earlier finding is cleared, and the validator's figure matches the quote.
  18. Three problems caught in one call, fixed in two passes, and a clean quote. That is the value of Predictika's validator: catching mistakes before they reach the customer. Now you can try the other scenarios yourself.